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Hello, friends, and welcome back to your weekly Linux talk show. My name is Chris.

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My name is Wes.

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And my name is Brent.

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Hey, gentlemen, coming up on the show today, we've been giving KDE Linux a spin,

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and we'll give you our first impressions in just a little bit.

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Plus, I just made a bunch of big updates to my Hypervibe distro.

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Yeah, it's still a thing. And I'm going to see if we can get Wes to get it installed

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and up and running live during the show.

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In fact, during the second half of the show, he doesn't even have the whole

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show. Then we'll round it out with some great shout-outs, some picks, and a lot more.

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So before we go any further, let's say time-appropriate greetings to that virtual

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lug. Hello, Mumble Room. Welcome in.

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Hello, Brent.

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We got a real small on-air. And then look at that big old quiet listening up

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there. It's glistening with the quiet listening.

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That's nice. Thank you, everybody, for joining us there and in the Matrix chat

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and making it a live vibe.

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And a big shout-out to our friends at Defined Networking. Head over to defined.net slash unplugged.

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I'm talking, let's just say there's Nebula going down the road out there.

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I set up my first lighthouse this weekend.

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Is that right? Good job.

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Thank you. Yeah, that's where I'm starting. I'm going to do a lighthouse and a mobile device.

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I did kind of cheat and I used Nebula Manager, but it was really nice.

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Nebula, I was, it's great actually.

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Nebula Manager is great because one of the things it did for me is it created

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a template config file that's just about ready to go.

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And so then I just went in there, bop, bop, bop through it in like two minutes max.

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And I had a lighthouse. I was like, oh, that was nothing.

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So I feel like the process is beginning. And then I think the next thing I'm

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going to set up just because this is how I roll is I think maybe there's better ways to do it.

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I'm open to input, but I think I'm going to set up a DNS server on the same

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box. That's my lighthouse.

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I have it do a name resolution for both Nebula and external stuff.

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What appeals to me is like I can build at it like this for my home lab and understand

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it and understand how it works. And I get access to everything.

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Right. But then for JB or friends or family or whatever it might be,

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the managed product is available for me.

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That I really like. I can go fully self-hosted with everything and it's not

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a compromise or I have the managed product.

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And that's something you might want to check out and just get started with.

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It's really great. And I now have my first lighthouse.

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It's a moment, boys. I felt really proud. And you can do it,

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too. You can host your own.

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Well, Texas Linux Fest, October 3rd through the 4th at the Commons Conference

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Center in Austin, Texas, is just 18 days away, probably about 10 or so days

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until Brent needs to hit the road from right now.

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Maybe eight or five.

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I'm feeling more like seven, so I've got to pack.

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Well, you've got to think about it this way. If you've got seven or eight days

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to leave, then you've got four or five days to fix whatever you need to fix

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before you can hit the road.

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I still have a leaking roof, so I've got to get it going on that.

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We have a big update on how we're doing coming up in the show later on.

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We've been stacking support with the audience's help for Texas Linux Fest.

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It's been really awesome.

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And I think with the incredible support we've seen from the audience and the

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fact that we just ticked over our 12th anniversary, I think we should officially

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hold the unplugged birthday party at Texas Linux Fest.

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So we have a meetup on the books. If you go to meetup.com slash Jupyter Broadcasting,

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we have an Austin unplugged birthday party on October 4th during the 12 p.m.

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lunch hour. Remember that that meetup page is in Pacific time.

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So I put it in for 2 p.m. Pacific time.

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Is that right? I can't remember, but I put it in. So it equates to either way.

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It's at lunch during Texas Linux Fest.

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And there's a real nice place. It offers burgers, coffee, beer,

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cocktails right nearby with indoor and outdoor seating. So I think we'll just walk there.

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And we'll hold the 12th anniversary birthday party for Linux Unplugged on Saturday

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at Texas Linux Fest. It should be really fun, I think.

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and I think also I'm going to say grab the BitChat app while we're there on

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the ground why don't we all organize with BitChat,

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and Bluetooth and IP based so get BitChat we'll have it linked in the show notes

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open source we've talked about it before could be a great way for us to just communicate that's.

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As you get in the area and we do have our link we're trying to raise support

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to get to Texas Linux Fest we were going to do the commercial sponsoring route

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but nothing's really worked out and so the audience is stepping up in a big

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way to make sure that we can get down there and do what we do best,

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cover these special community events like nobody else does or can.

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And so we'll have a link in the show notes. You can use PayPal,

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Venmo, or OnChain, or Lightning to support us.

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And you can put a little message in there. I'm kind of playfully calling it a fake boost.

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You can also, of course, boost us and put a message in there for going right

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into our fund to get us down to Texas.

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And I also think you could consider picking up a VLOG identification item like

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a hat or a t-shirt at the Jupyter Garage.

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We have a couple of new ones up there that you could put on and get identified

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by the team right away. You can find that at JupyterGarage.com.

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I wonder, did we get the new hat colors on there?

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I'm getting excited already. I mean, the schedule for Texas Linux Fest is up now.

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It's looking good. It's looking real good. And you're on Saturday.

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That's right, yeah.

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Everybody should come see Wes's talk on Saturday.

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After our meetup.

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And then right before the after parties, which there'll probably be several of.

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So you could grab yourself a VLOG identification item. So that way you stand

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up from the crowd at jupytergarage.com.

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Of course, we have the booths and we have the playfully titled fake booths.

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If you would like to support us that way, we'll have a link for that in the show notes.

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And we'll have an update on how we're doing in just a little bit.

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But KDE hit a new release stage in this last week.

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And we wanted to take a look at it. We've been talking about it on and off to

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our bootleg members and just wanted to get everyone caught up really quickly.

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The KDE community that makes the Plasma desktop has also now started creating

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their own distribution.

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And it's built by the KDE project to sort of feature the Plasma desktop and Plasma technologies.

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And we've entered into, it's still, I guess it's not, it's alpha,

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but it's not alpha, alpha. I mean, how are they calling?

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I mean, they do call it the alpha release of KDE Linux, at least Nate did over in his blog post.

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It's like the next alpha, I suppose. I mean, the reason why I'm trying to make

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this clear is it's still early days, everybody.

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But it is a new operating system intended eventually to be at a spot where you

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could daily drive this thing.

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It would showcase Plasma and KDE software in the best light they feel that the developers feel.

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And they would try to highlight modern technologies in their Wayland and Butterfess.

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So I think what's notable is they're calling this a testing edition now.

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So it's still considered alpha, but it's at the stage where they want to get public testing.

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So in there right now is an unreleased version of Plasma. Plasma 6.5 is in there right now.

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And so you can get to play with the latest and greatest stuff that way.

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And I know immediately you're probably thinking as you listen to this, boys,

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Why do we need another Linux distro? Why? Well, this is what the KDE project says.

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They say, quote, KDE is a huge producer of software.

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It's awkward for us not to have our own method of distributing it.

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Yes, KDE produces open source that others distribute, but we self-distribute

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our apps on app stores like FlatHub and the Snap Store and Microsoft stores.

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So I think it's natural for us to have our own platform for doing that distribution too.

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And that is an operating system. and so that's kind of what they say now brent there's neon though.

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if you remember that was the old version or

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oof am i supposed to call it that but that was the version

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of linux that they were putting out for developers and those of us who are i

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don't know interested in finding bugs to give it a shot chris you were running

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that for a long time in studio too yeah indeed at least nate says kd is not

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cancelled however it has shed most of its developers over the years, which is problematic,

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and it's currently being held together by a heroic volunteer.

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While Neon continues to exist, KDE Linux therefore does represent duplication.

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As for unnecessary, I'm not sure about that.

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Harold, myself, and others feel that KDE Neon has somewhat reached its limit

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in terms of what we can do with it.

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It was a great First product that KDE distributed some software and prepared

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the world for the idea of KDE in that role.

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And it served admirably for about a decade.

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But technological and conceptual issues limit how far we can continue to develop it.

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I mean, I can definitely understand preferring, even in an alpha,

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what they've got going now to develop.

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to putting things together the way Katie Neon did. That said,

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I mean, I ran it for years.

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We ran it at the studio for years. It really did work well.

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I guess I do empathize with the idea of that was our V1 and this is our V2.

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I can kind of connect with that.

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And it feels like, you know, designing something like this 10 years ago versus

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designing it in, you know, with modern applications and construction in mind.

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Of course, they're going to come up with a very different product.

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All right, BigPain. So they keep saying it's a modern, it's a modern design.

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What do they mean when they're saying it's modern? What does that mean in today's Linux distro parlance?

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of new wacky different versions of Linux.

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about our uBlue friends.

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I guess they're using Arch as a base, but then they're using a tool called Make

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OSI that produces like a operating system image file.

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that is your sort of like writable world.

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kernel has a modern take on that.

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systems that get put on your file system and managed by systemd with updatectl

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and there's a whole suite of systemd tools for this.

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Right, so you update with systemd. That's crazy. It's fun. It's not the best UI, but it's fun.

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And then, of course, that can hook into the systemd boot stuff.

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Right now, this does only work on UEFI systems and so you can have the A,

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And there's a lot to like in terms of you really just download a new file system

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image onto your hard drive, gets kind of rigged up a little, just a little bit,

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connect a few dots, and then it seemed I

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did I was doing some poking mostly because

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it foils a lot of like the sort of kegs xf

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I like to do they do actually load the pmem module that

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the unified kernel that they uh boot but they're using something where basically

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from and then it can just use the gpt partitioning to figure out what your root

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is automatically and it sort of like auto generates these mount units for you.

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so it's like it mounts the ButterFS system as your actual root,

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but then immediately before you ever get anywhere, it mounts this read-only

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to just the slash user part.

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And so all of that comes from their pre-built images.

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Ah, and where you're living is in the sub-volume.

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That's where stuff like Etsy and other places that you can write to.

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Is home in there too in the sub-volume?

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Yeah, okay. That's actually a pretty clever way to lay it out.

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I like that when I looked at it first, I thought, oh, okay, they didn't do home

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as its own partition. No, no, because it's in that sub-volume group.

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like, you know, if we don't do, they were originally at some point in their

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design doing a fully, like, immutable, just like at root.

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it was trying to write under user local, I think, which was still read-only

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and so still was breaking some things. But I didn't try that hard.

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So this has been one of my questions is, and you just touched on it,

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who is this ultimately for?

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And I guess what you just alluded to is there is some flexibility in the underlying

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system because one of the groups they're clearly targeting is developers.

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They say, quote, you want to participate in KDE's QA process and find issues

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or early bugs, or, quote, you are a KDE Plasma developer, are some of the groups

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they implicitly state on their website they're targeting as developers.

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And so my concern is a lot of times an immutable system is a little too rigid

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and you end up doing everything in distro box or everything in containers because

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developers need tools. They need libraries.

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They need all the crap that they use to build their particular applications

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with their particular workflow, with their particular preferences.

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That's where an immutable distro can be a little bit of friction.

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And if you're trying to make something where people can come and build applications

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for the Plasma desktop, they're going to need to be able to,

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I don't know, what would be a basic closure setup for you, and could you get

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that working on something like this?

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It does support homebrew, so you can get homebrew going.

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It's kind of like a lot of these modern systems. If it sufficiently sideloads

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cleanly, then you can kind of make it work maybe with some modifications or

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some jerry-rig support that you might need.

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And, of course, for a lot of stuff, especially with KDE, there's flat packs are very first class.

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so even if you want to develop some on kde software because

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they do have a section in their wiki that kind of addresses like well

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here's how you might go about developing non-kde software

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and how do you what if you want to work on the distro itself and so there's

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various setups i do think right containerization or things will probably come

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into play they do mention um distro box as well and and docker yep um and system

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d system extensions is another tool that they seem to be adopting in a pretty first class way that.

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Felt like when i come next time i come back around to kdelinux that i think i want to play with.

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And that lets you kind of do another take at this like overlaying right you

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can be like oh hey i want you to overlay these files on top of my what i've

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already got going on slash user to then add this extra especially with systemd

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where like you can override and hook in new units and lots of things.

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They do say in the documentation though install at your own risk this could

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break things and i think that's the takeaway for this entire distribution is

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install at your own risk it's it's still early and that said brent i know you've

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had a little bit of time with it we've all just spent kind of the weekend with

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it i'm curious what your first impressions were.

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As soon as i hit download it was the excitement i think anything coming out

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of the kd project i've been a fan of for a long time and we've been hearing.

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About your bias here now there.

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Is a bias for sure i think that's worth mentioning is i think all three of us

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we've become over the years pretty impressed with what the plasma desktop has

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achieved and the kde apps and ecosystem and the consistency that they've achieved

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so you're right brent but I think they've earned it.

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They've earned it by producing and being there year after year.

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And if you look at the transition from the five series to six series and how

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smooth that went, it's really impressive from that team.

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And so I think I've been excited about this coming since we heard little murmurs

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about it. What was that? Six months ago, something like that.

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So it's nice to see it finally come out. And yeah, sure. I'm biased and excited.

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So that was the first going into it emotion that i felt now i did of course

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see some differences like the download is a dot raw that was a little new for

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me i don't believe i've installed anything from a dot raw,

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uh typically you know you get an iso or something like that and i wondered if

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that would give me any issues but you know this being an alpha i thought i'm

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just gonna give it a quick test in a vm and that's,

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plenty fine maybe for a first go around

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and that booted up just fine if you you know give it enough space and all of

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that stuff what i ran into quickly though was i had issues partitioning and

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i know wes you were like i didn't have any issues at all but something about

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my setup gave me issues in the installer yeah.

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I installed it probably like 10 times overall just.

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Because i I kept tweaking and trying stuff.

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And all of them worked.

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And I don't know what I did. I obviously tried to troubleshoot it quite a bit

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and I did make some progress and I ended up the auto partitioning wasn't really

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working for me for whatever reason.

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So I ended up doing, you know, doing it manually.

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And even then I would get to the install process and it would chug for a little

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bit and then eventually get some IO errors and things like that.

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So it could very, very, very well be. It's my particular setup.

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How did you break your virtual hardware?

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Why is everything always breaking around me? So I did the smart thing and wrote

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that raw image to a USB drive and figured, go bare metal, baby.

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And so I gave that a shot today. And strangely, that excitement was still there.

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And I still didn't have anywhere to install it

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because I didn't want to wipe the entire you know framework maybe

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an hour or two before the show but I

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get a sense you guys might convince me to do that after the show but

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I did get it running and ran into a couple little

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bugs like plasma crashed one time and I

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did have some errors doing updates but eventually an image came in and I realized

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these are huge I know the installer told me hey you're gonna need at least 40

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gigs to install this as opposed to what typically we see like 8 16 gigs something

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like that so i know there's stuff that's a little different under the if.

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The images are big and if you've got a big faster net connection it's no big

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deal and if you're on a slower connection you really feel it.

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They weren't even that fast i have a pretty decent.

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Connection and it.

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Was still you know a few minutes.

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Yeah when i did the update ctl update or upgrade whatever it was at first i

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thought nothing was happening and then i realized that that progress bar was

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just taking a real long time it was just at like one or zero percent it does have.

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A fancy little colored progress bar though.

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That's true and.

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Once that image is downloaded it switched so fast i thought it failed,

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so there's that for it it's got that going forward um i'm curious what your

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impressions were just kicking the tires wes.

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Yeah i like it i mean it's a it's a very

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lean system pretty much everything's just in flatbacks a

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little bit in the base system as little as they can i think yeah

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so it's pretty snappy uh which is nice you know comes from a

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pretty nice little arch base for what you do get in the base system i

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was trying it out in a vm i did try it on hardware at the end too but in my

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first install i noticed that my mouse was totally upside down but in a way where

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i clearly like where you clicked was down no longer where anywhere that was

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drawing the mouse so you kind of had to guess it was just like a little you

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know a few millimeters above that it's.

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We run into that every now and then.

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Yeah but not.

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Unusual but i saw other folks reporting that issue as well.

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And so i just thought like is this some weird issue you know

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what there's a lot of ways that could happen but it was just a plasma issue

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because like or something some way that they were plugging it all together because

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not only did it not do that at the login screen uh

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but then after i did an update it totally went away so um

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and i see i could see because i was running over a couple days that yeah they've

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clearly got their ci all hooked up and it's pumping out like daily or nightly

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images that you get updates for i don't know that they have like the binary

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diff stuff that they eventually want to be able to do happening right now so

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you know do be aware of that if you're on a connection yeah.

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Yeah if you're metered you might you might maybe wait because i'm sure it's

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under very rapid development at the moment.

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I do think like if you're someone who really likes fresh Plasma and wants to

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live dangerously, if you can already make a system like this work where you

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are doing stuff in containers,

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you're happy to run stuff in Flatpak or as browser tabs, then for that kind

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of workstation, it'd be totally fine.

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I asked you guys earlier, who's this for? And I'll tell you what my use case is.

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I want to check out Plasma from time to time. And why not spend the weekend in the latest Plasma?

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And now that you've got the functionally atomic setup,

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while it is like this brand new setup and maybe you're on these unreleased versions

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and all that like that sharp edge is at least somewhat blunted by the fact that

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you can roll back if you do have a known good state that's fair.

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That's fair you have that sort of safety net.

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I'm not saying go switch all your business employees to this but you know.

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I mean it right now is very much, it's an MVP it ships with Dolphin Console,

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Arc Spectacle, Discover Infocenter, System Settings and a couple other system

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level apps in the base image and then Kate and Firefox are installed via Flatpak.

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That's pretty much it, boys.

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Lean.

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It is. Which I don't mind. Discover is installed, already pre-configured to look at FlatHub.

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The one thing that really stands out, though, when you're on a really lean system

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and you open up Discover, I don't know what they're using to pick what shows.

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But, like, so if you wanted somebody to be able to sit down and install this

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and be able to maybe just add some of the most common applications,

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that's not what's on the front page of Discover. It's like a random selection of apps.

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So you really have to know what you're looking for, which is fine,

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but it'd be kind of cool just to have, you know, maybe like a curated selection

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of like the most go-to apps that people need to get their system working and

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functional just right there.

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I was really happy to see ButterFS on route. Nice to see that.

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And they also have a Z standard compression, as our friends would say, enabled by default.

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They also have the SSD flag turned on.

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but ultimately my impression was is plasma 6.5 i get to play with plasma 6.5.

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What this.

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Is great i don't have to mess up my my whole system just to go play with plasma.

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This is another case right where like since they do have all the automation

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set up you just get these stamped output regular snapshots of what um what the

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trees look like i don't know the exact details but.

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Some of the stuff that i that actually really tickled me in 6.5 has been in

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plasma at least for a couple of releases but just for an example the remote

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desktop stuff is so nice now,

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you go into system settings remote desktops in that there's

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a section for it you enable a user

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so i turned on i added my user and then

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you check a box and then it gives you your ip and

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so i went over to another computer i installed krdp or

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whatever it is put in the ip address set no

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other settings hit enter and entered my

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username and password and i was remote controlling the plasma that plasma machine

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a katie linux machine over whalen over whalen on both systems on both ends no

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problem really good performance like i could move the windows around with the

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wobble and everything now obviously wait.

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With the what what.

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Did you say with the wobbles you gotta have the Wobble, right?

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I want the absolute latest version of the Wobble. I want nightly Wobble, okay? And I have it now.

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And the remote desktop, all that stuff, like the things they've been adding to Plasma,

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It's so well refined and comes together in 6.5. So who's it for?

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I think it's for people that want to just experience Plasma.

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Maybe you're creating an application and you want to see how it works on kind

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of like the reference Plasma desktop.

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Because I think that's what this is striving for is the reference Plasma desktop.

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And for some users, that's going to be very appealing to them.

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For other folks, it might be something we check in from time to time.

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But, I mean, does it feel like an alpha? a little but like you're saying you

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can always revert like nate he's been running it for months on on the daily

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so it's getting to a point already.

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I do think right like we are the ecosystem is adapting now to work better in

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this environment where like what you depend on from that core operating system

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is is less and less and that means there's less that you have to get to to get

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to sort of minimum viable distro in that sense.

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I also get a vibe that maybe there's a long-term goal to create a reference platform for OEMs.

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Hardware manufacturers that want to ship laptops or tablets or whatever using

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Plasma. And we also seem to have a bit of a roadmap.

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Three additions are planned. Testing, which will be like daily Git builds.

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Enthusiast, which will be the beta versions of released KDE software.

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And then Stable, which will be only released quality checked software.

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So you'll have three additions of KDE Linux eventually. There's only one right now.

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Right because.

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It's probably it's all just testing right now but uh that kind of also sort

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of slices it up right enthusiasts you could go check out the the enthusiast

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track of it or whatever you want to call it or the enthusiast edition i think it's good.

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One thing i wonder you know in the ublue world there's it

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is very much on like the container side of this tech i wonder you know what

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you see there where it's also encouraged like you can just import that and add

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your own layers on top and make your own thing i wonder will people fork this

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will there be like you know system extensions or things that become like here's

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like an add-on for kd linux obviously not right now but maybe these.

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Additions also get me thinking about who is the audience right like uh daily

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get builds i totally get that through testing even maybe enthusiasts you get

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bug checkers and things like that but i guess it's natural to put out a stable

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but is that really their goal makes me is that maybe for.

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The neon folks that have been you know because neon.

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Has been based on a boat to lts great so.

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Maybe this is yeah for them,

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And if you were going to run it on the daily yourself, that might be the one you want to target.

442
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:04,240
Because even with the stable version, I'm sure once the next version of Plasma

443
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,540
is considered stable, you get it probably that day.

444
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,160
Although I wonder, because there's the Plasma component, but then there's,

445
00:27:10,340 --> 00:27:12,580
like, if they're using Arch as the upstream, there's the...

446
00:27:12,580 --> 00:27:13,360
That's true.

447
00:27:13,860 --> 00:27:17,600
I don't know how many net packages it is that we could take a look at.

448
00:27:17,660 --> 00:27:21,660
Maybe that's not a crazy burden, but in theory, that is rolling underneath still that you get snapshots?

449
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,840
Unless they're backporting, you know, there's...

450
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,920
And Chris, maybe it's perfect for you. you run stable most of the time and then

451
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,080
when you want to get that weekend where you get a little preview you just switch

452
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,860
images to testing and give it.

453
00:27:31,860 --> 00:27:34,640
A couple right you could rebase that is one

454
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,860
of the that is one of this distro hopping is going to be something that we tell

455
00:27:39,860 --> 00:27:44,780
future generations that we used to do oh yeah we used to reload the entire system

456
00:27:44,780 --> 00:27:49,000
and we'd we'd we'd format it or some some of us would have separate partitions

457
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,440
or drives for our home folder and we'd move we'd keep that between the reinstalls

458
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,760
and it'd be a couple hours.

459
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,800
Or people had slick setups right on their case so they could switch,

460
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,320
which was like the primary hard drive.

461
00:27:58,620 --> 00:27:58,800
All the switches.

462
00:27:58,980 --> 00:28:01,480
We used to like K-Exec, you know? That used to be a thing.

463
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,620
But now we just rebase and in five minutes you're on the new thing.

464
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,160
Lame.

465
00:28:07,660 --> 00:28:10,760
It is nice though to be able to check things out. You could rebase to testing

466
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,200
for the weekend and then go back to stable.

467
00:28:13,060 --> 00:28:16,580
So interesting. I think it's going to be a distribution to watch,

468
00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:18,000
obviously just because of who's making it.

469
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,780
The security updates will lag a bit behind Arch. They say by a day or so.

470
00:28:23,220 --> 00:28:27,120
Maybe that gives a little insight to the process there. The governance seems

471
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472
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And if there's ever an end of life to KDE Linux, like they, and I like that

473
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they're talking about this.

474
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If the project fails, they say a last update will convert the system into another supported distro.

475
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Thinking about the whole lifecycle up front is smart. That's,

476
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I don't know what that, what exactly that means, but okay, they're promising.

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Chris, I got an itch this week, and it's to learn more about how Hypervibe is doing.

525
00:31:55,747 --> 00:32:00,007
You haven't talked about it for, I think, like two weeks now. Is this a bad sign?

526
00:32:00,007 --> 00:32:01,247
We're worried something's wrong.

527
00:32:03,207 --> 00:32:08,247
I'm doing okay. I've been biting my tongue, but some big things happened this

528
00:32:08,247 --> 00:32:09,547
week, so we're going to talk about it a little bit.

529
00:32:09,587 --> 00:32:14,267
While Wes, while we do this segment, attempts to get it running on a laptop

530
00:32:14,267 --> 00:32:21,587
live during the show. So, Wes Payne, are you ready to install Hypervibe on that laptop?

531
00:32:21,847 --> 00:32:26,887
Well, we'll see. As Jeff knows well, you have a notoriously large config.

532
00:32:27,167 --> 00:32:27,467
Yes.

533
00:32:27,867 --> 00:32:31,407
So I think we're going to see what things need to get trimmed down to make this work.

534
00:32:31,567 --> 00:32:34,767
My config highlights the best that free software has to offer.

535
00:32:35,167 --> 00:32:41,067
So there's a lot in there. So it's been a bit. Hyperland 0.51 dropped this week,

536
00:32:41,147 --> 00:32:42,727
and they added a new gesture.

537
00:32:43,007 --> 00:32:45,087
It actually completely reworked the gesture system.

538
00:32:45,447 --> 00:32:49,447
With true one-to-one trackpad gestures, you can map to fingers and modifiers

539
00:32:49,447 --> 00:32:55,927
and all kinds of cool directions, and you can now set scroll factors per device, which is really fun.

540
00:32:55,947 --> 00:32:56,607
That's nice.

541
00:32:56,607 --> 00:32:59,967
So you can dial in the mouse and you can dial in the touchpad and they don't

542
00:32:59,967 --> 00:33:01,587
have to have the same exact scroll settings.

543
00:33:01,987 --> 00:33:06,147
There was a rework on animations. I got a nice polish with smoother transitions for pop-ups.

544
00:33:06,887 --> 00:33:11,607
And screen sharing for Chrome and Firefox is fixed up a little bit with 8-bit

545
00:33:11,607 --> 00:33:12,707
color, so it's a little bit faster.

546
00:33:13,347 --> 00:33:19,067
So I had to incorporate all of this into Hypervibe. And I had to fix up some deprecated configs.

547
00:33:19,127 --> 00:33:21,447
I had to go in and change a few things around the new gesture system.

548
00:33:22,527 --> 00:33:29,387
I got all that refactored. But the thing that was big is I also have a new shared

549
00:33:29,387 --> 00:33:32,267
module stack. So all my hosts now have a consistent base.

550
00:33:33,027 --> 00:33:36,827
And then I have independent configs for each host. And then I've cleaned things

551
00:33:36,827 --> 00:33:40,127
up to make builds go faster. Like I removed WebGTK.

552
00:33:40,587 --> 00:33:42,267
Yeah, I wonder if you didn't push that yet.

553
00:33:42,267 --> 00:33:43,847
Because oh maybe not i'm.

554
00:33:43,847 --> 00:33:44,747
Having to do that right.

555
00:33:44,747 --> 00:33:46,987
Now you're going to be building webg yeah i'm removing.

556
00:33:46,987 --> 00:33:49,067
A bunch i think i i think i got it gone.

557
00:33:49,067 --> 00:33:53,147
Yeah you're not going to want that it takes forever to build and it's telegram

558
00:33:53,147 --> 00:33:57,687
and folate they pull it in and telegram you can just install as a flat pack

559
00:33:57,687 --> 00:34:02,447
so i i guess in the config i haven't committed yet i pulled out telegram as

560
00:34:02,447 --> 00:34:03,427
a package and now it's making.

561
00:34:03,427 --> 00:34:04,307
It harder for me.

562
00:34:04,307 --> 00:34:07,187
I know i'm sorry i also now have fixed

563
00:34:07,187 --> 00:34:09,927
auto updates i had this ridiculous bug where auto updates were

564
00:34:09,927 --> 00:34:12,607
building the wrong version so now

565
00:34:12,607 --> 00:34:15,747
they're locked to my repos flake so the system only

566
00:34:15,747 --> 00:34:18,487
builds against known good configs i overhauled i

567
00:34:18,487 --> 00:34:21,987
overhauled the way bar the clock is cleaner supports multiple time zones in

568
00:34:21,987 --> 00:34:26,227
the drop down now now and some systems people are having problems with the emojis

569
00:34:26,227 --> 00:34:30,907
so i simplified that i also have set up better device rules so android phones

570
00:34:30,907 --> 00:34:34,787
and a lot of usb gear just works without warnings you just plug it in and you

571
00:34:34,787 --> 00:34:36,827
should be able to access your usb device or like your android,

572
00:34:38,261 --> 00:34:43,341
I've moved to Kitty, and I've moved to NerdFonts, and that all looks really nice now.

573
00:34:43,821 --> 00:34:46,901
And I've installed Cursor. I'm playing around with the Cursor editor,

574
00:34:48,021 --> 00:34:51,061
and it should be able to edit the files it needs to edit and things like that.

575
00:34:51,141 --> 00:34:56,261
But all in all, new features, lots of tuning. It is all there.

576
00:34:56,361 --> 00:35:00,941
The new version of Hyperland has launched, and Hypervibe, my distro on Nix,

577
00:35:01,201 --> 00:35:05,441
has taken full advantage of all of them. It's looking real beautiful.

578
00:35:06,141 --> 00:35:09,081
In fact, I was telling Brent before the show that I like the setup so much that

579
00:35:09,081 --> 00:35:14,901
I'm working from home more just because with an ultra-wide screen and the tiling

580
00:35:14,901 --> 00:35:19,341
window manager, I can achieve a lot of the productivity I feel like I get with multiple monitors.

581
00:35:20,001 --> 00:35:23,401
I don't think it's a one-to-one, but it's pretty close.

582
00:35:24,861 --> 00:35:29,461
And it's great for work and it's great for gaming because I have GameScope and

583
00:35:29,461 --> 00:35:30,421
GameMode and all that stuff.

584
00:35:30,481 --> 00:35:33,361
So when you launch games, it's a full, ready-to-go gaming system.

585
00:35:33,901 --> 00:35:38,981
And when you want to work, it's really nice. and I've got key combinations that

586
00:35:38,981 --> 00:35:42,321
launch groups of applications and position them where I need them and all of it.

587
00:35:42,421 --> 00:35:46,221
It's just, I've been very happy. And I think it's going to be hard to go back

588
00:35:46,221 --> 00:35:47,741
to a non-tiling workflow.

589
00:35:48,001 --> 00:35:49,181
Well, why do you need to?

590
00:35:49,361 --> 00:35:54,221
I don't know. I don't know why you ever would. I don't know why you ever would. Okay, Wes Payne.

591
00:35:55,941 --> 00:35:57,661
I might be ready to try.

592
00:35:58,101 --> 00:36:02,101
No way, really? You got around WebGTK that quick? You stripped her down, didn't you?

593
00:36:02,521 --> 00:36:07,001
I did. I did notice you have a few a bit of duplication in here that.

594
00:36:07,001 --> 00:36:07,681
Is the old config.

595
00:36:07,681 --> 00:36:09,101
Yes because.

596
00:36:09,101 --> 00:36:10,861
I did actually go through and remove some of the dupes.

597
00:36:10,861 --> 00:36:14,481
Because I was like why do I have to remove element a couple of different times

598
00:36:14,481 --> 00:36:19,061
yeah that's me you had some old plasma 5 packages that had to get removed yeah.

599
00:36:19,061 --> 00:36:20,421
That is the old I'm sorry,

600
00:36:23,077 --> 00:36:29,137
No, I need what I know. No, this is whole. I wanted him to review what I got wrong.

601
00:36:29,377 --> 00:36:33,617
And problem is, is that I do kind of like batch commits.

602
00:36:34,417 --> 00:36:37,177
So I've changed a lot of things. And then I do one commit. And I just try to

603
00:36:37,177 --> 00:36:38,257
put all my changes in that commit.

604
00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:41,017
Because otherwise, I'd be committing stuff all the time.

605
00:36:41,717 --> 00:36:46,737
Well, Chris, there's a good way to use Git and a less good way to use Git. Just saying.

606
00:36:47,317 --> 00:36:47,957
Tell me more.

607
00:36:48,857 --> 00:36:50,297
Or Wes will tell you after the show.

608
00:36:50,377 --> 00:36:54,377
Am I using it wrong? Am I getting wrong, boys? I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

609
00:36:54,957 --> 00:36:58,157
That you're getting at all is a huge success. So please don't stop.

610
00:36:59,877 --> 00:37:04,297
Speaking of Git, we thought it'd be fun to kind of what Wes is doing with my

611
00:37:04,297 --> 00:37:05,817
Hypervibe config right now.

612
00:37:06,477 --> 00:37:09,677
Let's do for anybody. I wonder if we couldn't even make an episode out of it.

613
00:37:09,757 --> 00:37:13,397
So we want, once again, we're putting the call out for you to send us your configs.

614
00:37:13,537 --> 00:37:17,637
But we want to do it a little differently this time. We'll take a look at them.

615
00:37:18,237 --> 00:37:21,697
We'll call out what you got good. I love that part. We'll even call out if we're

616
00:37:21,697 --> 00:37:22,717
copying anything you've got.

617
00:37:22,997 --> 00:37:26,377
And we'll call out the bad. So it's like, you know, it's all out there.

618
00:37:27,057 --> 00:37:30,837
And we may suggest a few improvements. And we want to be able to actually commit

619
00:37:30,837 --> 00:37:34,817
those improvements back. So we're going to put a link in the show notes for people to submit.

620
00:37:35,037 --> 00:37:37,377
Have we decided the best way for them to send it to us?

621
00:37:38,077 --> 00:37:41,017
I think however they, you know, send a boost email.

622
00:37:41,517 --> 00:37:44,777
No, no. I mean, like, we need it somewhere where we can get it.

623
00:37:44,797 --> 00:37:46,537
I think we'll just have to fork as we go.

624
00:37:46,817 --> 00:37:49,917
Okay. So just put it somewhere where you can link it to us. So send it in as

625
00:37:49,917 --> 00:37:53,437
a boost or send an email and link it to us, and then we'll grab it.

626
00:37:53,957 --> 00:37:57,037
That'll work. That'll work. And we want your Nix configs.

627
00:37:57,117 --> 00:38:00,137
And then maybe we'll put together like a list of the ones that we receive or

628
00:38:00,137 --> 00:38:01,757
something and then link out to them.

629
00:38:01,817 --> 00:38:04,657
Is there any other configs we want people to send in besides Nix configs that

630
00:38:04,657 --> 00:38:07,697
we want to look at? I mean, I just love config setups.

631
00:38:08,977 --> 00:38:10,657
Sweet Ansible setups. That's fine, too.

632
00:38:10,737 --> 00:38:16,157
I'd be down for that. Yeah. So boost them in with a link or email them in so we can take a look.

633
00:38:17,817 --> 00:38:19,297
and tell you what we think of them.

634
00:38:19,477 --> 00:38:22,577
You know, if you got like a real dope Docker composed yam, we'll send that in.

635
00:38:22,857 --> 00:38:24,657
Apparently we got a Hyperland guy here.

636
00:38:25,117 --> 00:38:28,317
Hey-o. Okay, West Payne. So we're going to let you keep going.

637
00:38:28,757 --> 00:38:30,597
We'll give you through the next segment.

638
00:38:31,437 --> 00:38:35,157
We're going into the last half of the show. So you've got a little bit over there.

639
00:38:36,717 --> 00:38:41,077
We'll see how it goes. So ladies and gentlemen, stand by why West Payne tries

640
00:38:41,077 --> 00:38:45,557
to build Hypervibe on a laptop that's old and slow. yeah.

641
00:38:45,557 --> 00:38:50,057
We do have we are doing a little bit of finishing building hyperland so there's that going on.

642
00:38:50,057 --> 00:38:53,037
Uh-huh yeah so that's always it's always pulling in the absolute latest

643
00:38:53,037 --> 00:38:58,537
i it's one of the funny things actually was i knew about the new gesture stuff

644
00:38:58,537 --> 00:39:02,777
before uh the hyperland announcement of the new release because they broke in

645
00:39:02,777 --> 00:39:07,157
my config because i'm running i'm running raw man and so i i was fixing stuff

646
00:39:07,157 --> 00:39:11,897
in line as as uh they were getting published to the hyperland repo okay,

647
00:39:13,817 --> 00:39:14,957
Keep going, Wes Payne.

648
00:39:21,083 --> 00:39:24,563
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649
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650
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651
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What you got in the closet is going to work with Unraid. It allows you to mix

652
00:39:37,643 --> 00:39:38,963
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653
00:39:39,103 --> 00:39:43,383
You can build what you want with no restrictions. There's also built-in support

654
00:39:43,383 --> 00:39:48,263
for things like tail scale and one-click remote access and easy hardware acceleration

655
00:39:48,263 --> 00:39:54,143
and a ginormous community app store that has everything in there from AlbiHub

656
00:39:54,143 --> 00:39:56,943
to the latest RAR series of things.

657
00:39:57,163 --> 00:40:00,263
And if you know what I mean, you know what I mean. Now, I got a note from Alan

658
00:40:00,263 --> 00:40:04,123
in Texas. He says, in your latest read, you mentioned you wanted to hear people

659
00:40:04,123 --> 00:40:05,023
with their Unraid setups.

660
00:40:05,163 --> 00:40:11,563
Well, I am running Unraid on a Dell PowerEdge R730XD as my home server.

661
00:40:12,123 --> 00:40:15,703
It's running a couple of VMs for Home Assistant, PFSense, and a Minecraft server

662
00:40:15,703 --> 00:40:18,743
on Ubuntu, and a couple of Linux distros to play around with.

663
00:40:19,163 --> 00:40:22,683
There are also several containers for Image, Jellyfin, Nextcloud,

664
00:40:22,843 --> 00:40:26,723
Pinchflat, Matrix, Minifold, Vault Warden, and more.

665
00:40:26,903 --> 00:40:30,783
I've been busy with work, so it needs some love. I'm not really sure if that's

666
00:40:30,783 --> 00:40:33,923
worth sharing, but if you guys want to pull the trigger on Linux Unplugged Homelab

667
00:40:33,923 --> 00:40:38,183
Extreme Makeover Podcast, I could be a prime candidate. I would love to do that, Alan.

668
00:40:38,763 --> 00:40:43,123
Thank you for sending that note in about your Unraid setup. I love hearing what people use it for.

669
00:40:43,503 --> 00:40:46,083
I'm going to check out Minifold. I know everything on that list.

670
00:40:46,143 --> 00:40:47,683
I'm not sure if I'm familiar with Minifold.

671
00:40:47,983 --> 00:40:51,803
I might check that out after the show. So go get set up with Unraid and then

672
00:40:51,803 --> 00:40:53,923
write in and tell me what you've built, what you're running.

673
00:40:54,083 --> 00:40:55,283
Could be huge, could be small.

674
00:40:55,563 --> 00:40:57,903
What really matters is that it makes a difference for you.

675
00:40:58,263 --> 00:41:02,763
Get started. Support the show. Try it for 30 days for free. Unraid's fantastic.

676
00:41:02,923 --> 00:41:05,043
Built on modern Linux. You're going to love it.

677
00:41:05,803 --> 00:41:11,003
Unraid.net slash unplugged. That's unrayed.net slash unplugged.

678
00:41:14,123 --> 00:41:18,423
Well, this week we want to do a big shout out to core contributor Pierre G.

679
00:41:18,743 --> 00:41:22,103
Thank you very much for joining the core contributor team and the party.

680
00:41:22,843 --> 00:41:27,103
Yay! I hope you get the bootleg this week. Check it out. Let us know what you think.

681
00:41:28,343 --> 00:41:32,743
At Brantley, we had a bunch of people take advantage of the fake boost link

682
00:41:32,743 --> 00:41:36,403
to support the Linux Fest trip to Texas.

683
00:41:36,403 --> 00:41:38,983
Can you remind, what the heck is a fake boost?

684
00:41:39,583 --> 00:41:45,503
Yeah, so I created a page that lets you use PayPal, Venmo, on-chain, or Lightning.

685
00:41:46,503 --> 00:41:49,263
And the reason why I'm calling it, and I'm calling it teasingly a fake boost,

686
00:41:49,423 --> 00:41:54,883
because you can put your name or a username, a handle, and a message in there, like a boost.

687
00:41:55,283 --> 00:41:59,803
It doesn't actually use the boost payments system, but it kind of replicates

688
00:41:59,803 --> 00:42:05,143
the experience of who you are, amount, and message. So it can give you.

689
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,240
Um, and so Jordan Bravo took advantage of it with 10,000 sats.

690
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,580
He says, have some sats for the Texas Linux fest.

691
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,600
I also hope you consider attending self next year. Since I live in Georgia,

692
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,680
self is the only Linux conference I can reasonably travel. Oh yeah.

693
00:42:19,820 --> 00:42:20,420
Yeah. It makes sense.

694
00:42:20,580 --> 00:42:23,640
We get that one. Do you want to take the next one, Mr. Payne?

695
00:42:23,740 --> 00:42:24,760
I know you're in the middle over there.

696
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,280
Let me, I got to scroll up.

697
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,500
Oh yeah. I know. Brad and I could do it too. If you got a build to take it.

698
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:30,960
I know you're in the middle of that.

699
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,100
Matt M. Fake Bootson with 250 USD.

700
00:42:35,820 --> 00:42:38,440
Yes. thank you sir i think that deserves a baller.

701
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:44,060
Yeah it's not a fake boost at all that's some value thank you man i've been

702
00:42:44,060 --> 00:42:47,460
listening and watching since the linux action show all right and i'm hopeful

703
00:42:47,460 --> 00:42:49,660
for at least another 12 years of linux.

704
00:42:49,660 --> 00:42:53,520
Unplugged yeah i love it yeah hopefully.

705
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,300
This will help with part of the hotel cost thanks to the whole team for all

706
00:42:56,300 --> 00:42:58,880
your dedication and hard work oh well thank you thank.

707
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,160
You by hotel i think he means you know the bus we're all gonna just pile in

708
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,760
right oh yeah isn't that the plan that's the whole that was the long-term plan

709
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:14,720
wasn't it uh-huh we got us a blender cat sending in a little message with a fake boost of 105 usds.

710
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:18,740
Not bad at all thank you sir.

711
00:43:18,740 --> 00:43:24,420
Blender cat says i hope to see you all at texas linux fest okay.

712
00:43:24,420 --> 00:43:25,640
Blender cat you got to come up and

713
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,080
you got to identify yourself you got to introduce yourself Splendor cat.

714
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,020
Now. Yeah, please. Or wear a shirt or something.

715
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,140
I will accept a pantomime as well.

716
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:40,200
Okay. Matt F. came in with $50 and said, get some great barbecue.

717
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,100
Thank you, Matt F. Appreciate that.

718
00:43:43,340 --> 00:43:45,200
Can I just say, do not blend cats. Thank you.

719
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,100
Yeah, okay.

720
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,980
Crash Master comes in with $50.

721
00:43:49,380 --> 00:43:50,320
Hey, Crash Master.

722
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,780
For Texas Linux Fest, get some good recipes from members in Austin for the lunch.

723
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,640
Good call. Good call.

724
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,480
Hey, wait, you can't call it that. Well, Vince P boosted in.

725
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,980
Oh, no, that's not a boost. It's a fake boost. 200 USDs.

726
00:44:05,300 --> 00:44:05,940
Hey, 200.

727
00:44:09,651 --> 00:44:10,391
Wow, thank you, Vince.

728
00:44:10,571 --> 00:44:13,171
Vince says, cheers, boys, and enjoy the fest.

729
00:44:13,771 --> 00:44:16,711
Thank you. D came in with $150.

730
00:44:22,511 --> 00:44:25,191
D says, here's some Fiat fun for the meat coma.

731
00:44:26,031 --> 00:44:27,331
Much required. Thank you.

732
00:44:28,751 --> 00:44:34,131
Phil J comes in with a fiver. Enjoy the trip, guys. Listener since 2020.

733
00:44:34,291 --> 00:44:34,511
All right.

734
00:44:34,511 --> 00:44:35,691
Started with self-hosted.

735
00:44:35,791 --> 00:44:35,971
Yeah.

736
00:44:36,471 --> 00:44:39,231
All the best to the JB team. Looking forward to hearing your coverage.

737
00:44:39,231 --> 00:44:40,771
Cheers from Switzerland.

738
00:44:41,111 --> 00:44:41,931
Thank you, Phil.

739
00:44:42,211 --> 00:44:42,631
Wonderful.

740
00:44:43,031 --> 00:44:44,691
We will do you proud.

741
00:44:45,131 --> 00:44:49,271
I've never heard of this guy. Carl George, a.k.a. Mr. Pocket Meat,

742
00:44:50,031 --> 00:44:51,971
fake boosted in a little 50.

743
00:44:53,091 --> 00:44:53,531
Nice.

744
00:44:54,011 --> 00:44:55,671
50 for the group. This isn't looking great.

745
00:44:55,811 --> 00:44:58,031
It says nothing but barbecue. That's how you know it's Carl.

746
00:44:58,091 --> 00:44:59,451
Three letters. BBQ.

747
00:44:59,731 --> 00:45:00,371
Barbecue, yeah.

748
00:45:00,831 --> 00:45:02,231
I think this counts as pocket meat.

749
00:45:03,571 --> 00:45:04,971
Uh-oh, Wes Payne. What is it?

750
00:45:05,971 --> 00:45:07,711
Failed to start display manager.

751
00:45:08,251 --> 00:45:09,271
You don't need that.

752
00:45:10,671 --> 00:45:15,091
What? Why? It is, it may be geared up for- We started our.

753
00:45:15,091 --> 00:45:16,491
Power top tuning, so that's good.

754
00:45:16,491 --> 00:45:20,711
I guess all my systems are AMD. Maybe that's, hmm. Oh, that's a bummer.

755
00:45:21,231 --> 00:45:24,851
That's a bummer. The Hypervibe fail. Well, you could keep poking at it, I suppose.

756
00:45:25,911 --> 00:45:28,811
I'll take Noah here. Noah came in with $5.

757
00:45:30,391 --> 00:45:32,691
Thanks for all the great content over the years. Safe travels.

758
00:45:32,931 --> 00:45:33,931
Thank you, Noah. Appreciate it.

759
00:45:33,991 --> 00:45:38,471
Oh, good. Postgres is running, so that worked. oh good yeah it's ready to run

760
00:45:38,471 --> 00:45:40,391
as a server not so much as a desktop.

761
00:45:42,371 --> 00:45:43,311
Isn't that the intention.

762
00:45:43,311 --> 00:45:46,131
Oh man Donnie came in with $200,

763
00:45:51,565 --> 00:45:54,525
Keep up the great work and event coverage. Thanks for setting up this payment

764
00:45:54,525 --> 00:45:55,865
method for the lazy folks like me.

765
00:45:56,745 --> 00:45:58,165
Thanks, Donnie. We still love you.

766
00:45:58,545 --> 00:45:59,525
Yeah, I appreciate it.

767
00:45:59,765 --> 00:46:04,165
Well, Brandon R. sent us one of those fake bees of 20 US dollars.

768
00:46:05,365 --> 00:46:05,805
Nice.

769
00:46:06,285 --> 00:46:08,585
Have fun in Texas and enjoy the barbecue.

770
00:46:09,065 --> 00:46:12,205
We will. Thank you very much. Appreciate that.

771
00:46:12,845 --> 00:46:16,625
Joseph B. came in with 20 bucks. Finally, I can send some money without having

772
00:46:16,625 --> 00:46:18,825
to buy Bitcoin. I bet. Yeah.

773
00:46:19,685 --> 00:46:21,985
I thought that might be appealing to some of you out there.

774
00:46:22,245 --> 00:46:23,245
We still love you.

775
00:46:23,545 --> 00:46:24,205
Thank you, Joseph.

776
00:46:25,325 --> 00:46:27,585
Well, Sunbake sent us 40 US dollars.

777
00:46:28,425 --> 00:46:28,865
Nice.

778
00:46:29,705 --> 00:46:35,385
Some for the trip. Here's some help from the other WA, Western Australia.

779
00:46:35,805 --> 00:46:39,465
We're three times bigger than Texas, but have many times less Linux vests.

780
00:46:39,785 --> 00:46:41,245
Looking forward to hearing all about it.

781
00:46:41,625 --> 00:46:45,765
Can I just say how awesome the international support is to get us to go cover a Texas Linux event?

782
00:46:45,865 --> 00:46:46,225
No kidding.

783
00:46:46,225 --> 00:46:49,665
I really, really, really appreciate that. Thank you, Sunbaked.

784
00:46:50,305 --> 00:46:52,085
David H. comes in with $100.

785
00:46:52,545 --> 00:46:53,205
All right.

786
00:46:54,205 --> 00:46:57,545
I've gotten much more than this amount in value from you folks and look forward

787
00:46:57,545 --> 00:47:02,005
to the continued great work. I was also lucky to attend the 600 meetup sometime ago.

788
00:47:02,325 --> 00:47:04,445
Have a great trip, David, in Burlington.

789
00:47:04,725 --> 00:47:05,905
Well, thank you, David.

790
00:47:06,245 --> 00:47:07,905
From around the world to right around the corner.

791
00:47:08,065 --> 00:47:13,105
Yeah, really. No kidding. All right. So our total of fake booths so far,

792
00:47:13,105 --> 00:47:19,205
this is the grand total for the last two weeks, is $1,245.

793
00:47:20,225 --> 00:47:23,205
Hmm. That's like the combination I have on my luggage.

794
00:47:24,325 --> 00:47:29,205
You're right. I didn't even notice that. That's pretty interesting. Pretty close.

795
00:47:29,785 --> 00:47:35,425
That is darn near almost exactly in the range of what the VRBO is probably going to cost us.

796
00:47:35,585 --> 00:47:40,905
We found some that are probably about in the 10 to 15 minute range drive. I will warn you boys.

797
00:47:41,745 --> 00:47:45,085
It is nothing fancy. so i'm staying.

798
00:47:45,085 --> 00:47:46,145
In the van is that what you're saying.

799
00:47:46,145 --> 00:47:49,225
Maybe i mean it's it's serviceable it's got bedrooms

800
00:47:49,225 --> 00:47:52,105
um but it's not but we're all we need we're going for

801
00:47:52,105 --> 00:47:56,225
budget and with this we're going to be able to secure the vrbo weeks before

802
00:47:56,225 --> 00:48:00,465
we head down so thank you everyone that is a major cost that has been solved

803
00:48:00,465 --> 00:48:04,885
uh we still have gas we have hotel on the way down and probably on the way back

804
00:48:04,885 --> 00:48:08,785
and any meetup related costs that we are still fundraising for but this is a

805
00:48:08,785 --> 00:48:10,325
huge milestone and for the trip support,

806
00:48:10,445 --> 00:48:13,325
we at least know we can secure a place to land.

807
00:48:13,685 --> 00:48:16,545
If we can knock out a few more of those expenses with the boost,

808
00:48:16,785 --> 00:48:20,945
that would be fantastic, but we really appreciate everybody that sent in the fake boost.

809
00:48:21,085 --> 00:48:23,545
If you want to do that, we still have the links in the show notes.

810
00:48:23,725 --> 00:48:27,845
It will still be available. It automatically gets tagged for Texas Linux Fest,

811
00:48:27,885 --> 00:48:30,905
and you get to put your name and a message on it.

812
00:48:31,025 --> 00:48:34,645
Thank you, everybody, who sent in a fake boost, and now let's get to the boost.

813
00:48:39,625 --> 00:48:47,905
And how about this? Adversary 17 is our baller booster this week with 256,000 sets.

814
00:48:48,145 --> 00:48:48,765
Wow.

815
00:48:59,553 --> 00:49:03,993
Adversaries write sats for the Texas trip. Well, thank you, adversaries.

816
00:49:04,133 --> 00:49:05,153
We really appreciate that.

817
00:49:05,353 --> 00:49:13,193
That is a fantastic boost, and that is going right to the trip budget. To Texas we go, boys.

818
00:49:14,233 --> 00:49:17,733
I like that you have stuff in here that, I don't know if you were yelling at

819
00:49:17,733 --> 00:49:23,733
the machine or what, but it has stuff, and it just says, preserving your existing config in all caps.

820
00:49:25,953 --> 00:49:29,113
I had to make it clear. I had to make it really clear.

821
00:49:31,913 --> 00:49:40,593
Well KRHill94 boosted in real clear With a hundred thousand cents Short and

822
00:49:40,593 --> 00:49:46,373
sweet For Texas Linux Fest Heck yeah We appreciate it Thank.

823
00:49:46,373 --> 00:49:50,353
You 94 Really appreciate that That's great Right to the fund it goes.

824
00:49:51,253 --> 00:49:57,353
Well we got a Padre here Sending in 71,282 Satoshis Okie dokie,

825
00:50:02,213 --> 00:50:06,373
here is a linux fast boost from a first-time booster hey.

826
00:50:06,373 --> 00:50:10,273
Oh thank you for getting it all set up appreciate that effort too.

827
00:50:10,273 --> 00:50:14,673
I started my dev journey on the lamp stack but life took a different direction

828
00:50:14,673 --> 00:50:21,033
i became a catholic priest about 20 years ago i came across jb by way of self-hosted

829
00:50:21,033 --> 00:50:26,913
which gave me an outlet to reignite my love of devops so naturally now i run

830
00:50:26,913 --> 00:50:30,253
a ramshackle home lab on half a dozen old PCs and Macs.

831
00:50:30,373 --> 00:50:34,933
Half of my church's IT needs are on top of NixOS, thanks to Chris and the Badger.

832
00:50:35,113 --> 00:50:39,353
I don't spend a lot of time on Linux, but I do love the show and the network.

833
00:50:39,713 --> 00:50:44,973
Prayers for a safe journey to Texas Linux Fest and thanks for the hard work on that old JB.

834
00:50:45,933 --> 00:50:50,773
P.S. The total of these boots should be a zip code, but only time will tell.

835
00:50:51,013 --> 00:50:55,953
Thank you, Padre. That is a great boost. I love to hear that NixOS has creeped

836
00:50:55,953 --> 00:50:58,993
in and brace yourself Wes because actually,

837
00:51:04,289 --> 00:51:08,709
All right, so this is the total of this boost should be a zip code,

838
00:51:08,829 --> 00:51:12,249
but only time will tell. What does that mean?

839
00:51:12,469 --> 00:51:14,089
I feel like it's a riddle.

840
00:51:14,649 --> 00:51:17,509
All right, and then you just spin the map around, you put your lucky finger

841
00:51:17,509 --> 00:51:21,329
down, and you land on Tallulah, Louisiana.

842
00:51:21,929 --> 00:51:23,849
Louisiana? Tallulah?

843
00:51:24,369 --> 00:51:28,869
I don't know if that's if I'm saying it right, but T-A-L-L-U-L-A-H.

844
00:51:28,989 --> 00:51:29,829
That's fantastic.

845
00:51:30,389 --> 00:51:31,729
In Madison Parish.

846
00:51:31,889 --> 00:51:33,789
Will I be driving through there to get to Texas?

847
00:51:34,369 --> 00:51:37,849
I don't know. Take a look at the map, Brent. We just had it out.

848
00:51:38,029 --> 00:51:40,949
Can you unfold it a bit more? You're kind of hiding the section I need.

849
00:51:41,369 --> 00:51:44,169
We were going to ask you what your route was, but you're asking us.

850
00:51:44,209 --> 00:51:45,769
I know. This is not how this works.

851
00:51:46,469 --> 00:51:48,429
Boosting what you think my route should be. Thank you.

852
00:51:49,309 --> 00:51:53,889
He doesn't know. Biggles knows. He came in with 50,000 sats.

853
00:51:56,109 --> 00:51:59,189
Thank you, sir. Looking forward to the Texas Linux Fest coverage.

854
00:51:59,529 --> 00:52:04,189
Here is my small contribution. Not small at all. We really appreciate any value people can contribute.

855
00:52:05,729 --> 00:52:08,949
it is extremely humbling and,

856
00:52:09,889 --> 00:52:12,729
comforting isn't the right word but to know

857
00:52:12,729 --> 00:52:16,609
that the Linux audience that chooses to listen to our podcast at least has our

858
00:52:16,609 --> 00:52:20,049
back you know like there's a community behind us we're going to go down there

859
00:52:20,049 --> 00:52:22,889
and we've been doing this for a long time so you know we're going to deliver

860
00:52:22,889 --> 00:52:26,109
right you know we're going to do it you know we're going to try to have a good

861
00:52:26,109 --> 00:52:29,929
time too and we're going to try to get you great coverage and come back with a solid episode

862
00:52:30,349 --> 00:52:34,789
so any amount people can contribute is really appreciated thank you Thank you for the boost pickles.

863
00:52:35,609 --> 00:52:39,929
Chlorophore comes in with 47,180 sats.

864
00:52:43,649 --> 00:52:49,649
This is a live zip code boost Westpain. So you're doing double duty right now.

865
00:52:52,489 --> 00:52:58,649
He said, I agree. I hadn't heard one for a while. So here is a zip code boost. It's 47180.

866
00:52:59,729 --> 00:53:06,449
Oh, here comes the map again. Going from hyperbuild to map Like a machine Is.

867
00:53:06,449 --> 00:53:07,269
That a hypermap?

868
00:53:08,329 --> 00:53:11,789
Okay, what do we got here? We got 50,000?

869
00:53:12,129 --> 00:53:16,389
4-7-1-8-0 4-7-1-8-0 Oh, I see.

870
00:53:16,529 --> 00:53:18,289
I was one back Yeah, there we go,

871
00:53:19,457 --> 00:53:21,257
That explains why I was in the water.

872
00:53:21,397 --> 00:53:24,917
Yeah, you're way off on the map. That's right. I think you got to go over there. There you go.

873
00:53:25,777 --> 00:53:26,957
Not next to the oil rig.

874
00:53:27,097 --> 00:53:27,457
Ah, careful.

875
00:53:27,677 --> 00:53:30,037
It might be metric too, Wes, just in case.

876
00:53:30,457 --> 00:53:34,797
Ooh, I hope not. Metric zip codes are hard. You got to do the conversion.

877
00:53:35,097 --> 00:53:35,877
Is it in progress?

878
00:53:36,477 --> 00:53:40,337
I think there's a hint here. It is, yeah. The pause. What is this last bit here,

879
00:53:40,417 --> 00:53:42,477
Brent? You need to read that. The pause.

880
00:53:43,337 --> 00:53:46,797
I would prefer if you read it, but you know, if you really need me to. You sure?

881
00:53:46,837 --> 00:53:47,797
Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead.

882
00:53:50,597 --> 00:53:56,717
Pozdrowinia poloski this is i think polish i have a teeny tiny bit in my old

883
00:53:56,717 --> 00:54:00,057
roots but i i don't got the language i apologize for everything i just did.

884
00:54:04,457 --> 00:54:07,017
How's the zip code uh search going over there west not so good yeah.

885
00:54:08,397 --> 00:54:11,957
There is a 47-180.

886
00:54:11,957 --> 00:54:14,917
In poland oh okay i think.

887
00:54:14,917 --> 00:54:15,557
I think you're i.

888
00:54:15,557 --> 00:54:17,397
Don't know if this is right though I.

889
00:54:17,397 --> 00:54:20,797
Think you're over the target, at least. Thank you. Appreciate it,

890
00:54:20,877 --> 00:54:22,677
Chlorophore. You've kind of stumped us, but I think we're close.

891
00:54:22,837 --> 00:54:25,217
Yeah, I'm going to have to do some more research and maybe get a bigger map.

892
00:54:25,757 --> 00:54:29,497
Damn, comes in with 43,100 sats.

893
00:54:30,317 --> 00:54:36,517
Thank you. First time booster. Yes. Thank you. Long time party member.

894
00:54:36,717 --> 00:54:37,577
Oh, my goodness. Thank you.

895
00:54:38,777 --> 00:54:44,037
I use Linux every day as a visual effects artist working mostly on TV commercials. What?

896
00:54:44,197 --> 00:54:44,497
Neat.

897
00:54:44,937 --> 00:54:48,797
We need to know more about this. I got my start by accidentally wiping the family

898
00:54:48,797 --> 00:54:51,157
PC with RHEL 2.1 in high school been.

899
00:54:51,157 --> 00:54:52,857
There doesn't that happen to everyone.

900
00:54:52,857 --> 00:54:58,517
Man when I screwed up the family PC dad was so mad he says thanks to JBI almost

901
00:54:58,517 --> 00:55:04,497
all my installs are now Nix OS I hope this gets a tank of gas for the Texas Linux Fest thank you sir,

902
00:55:04,957 --> 00:55:09,977
I'd love to know more about using Linux for the visual effects stuff even just

903
00:55:09,977 --> 00:55:14,957
software distros what works what doesn't work that's fascinating really appreciate

904
00:55:14,957 --> 00:55:17,737
the boost thank you for taking the time to get that all plumbed up.

905
00:55:17,737 --> 00:55:22,177
Well tomato or maybe it's tomato sends in 28 000 sets.

906
00:55:24,097 --> 00:55:25,877
There you go uh.

907
00:55:25,877 --> 00:55:29,497
This might be a haiku but i don't know my poems so here we go i

908
00:55:29,497 --> 00:55:32,577
nodes at night are big and bright deep in

909
00:55:32,577 --> 00:55:35,817
the heart of linux the h top sky is wide

910
00:55:35,817 --> 00:55:43,157
and high deep in the heart of linux fedora's whale along the trail deep in that

911
00:55:43,157 --> 00:55:49,537
heart of linux the nixies rush around the brush deep in the heart of linux these

912
00:55:49,537 --> 00:55:54,377
are some sats to help you with your trip to that old 28th state yeehaw.

913
00:55:54,377 --> 00:56:07,257
I like that thank you very much tomato nice to hear from you exocena comes in with 25 000 sats,

914
00:56:10,914 --> 00:56:15,014
Almost 10 months since my last booth. Sorry about that. But I have perfected

915
00:56:15,014 --> 00:56:18,254
my NextCloud. He calls it my NextCloud.

916
00:56:19,454 --> 00:56:23,934
With one command in the terminal, you can create a ready-to-boot SD card image

917
00:56:23,934 --> 00:56:30,234
for a Raspberry Pi 4 or 5 with NixOS and NextCloud ready to go.

918
00:56:30,554 --> 00:56:35,834
Automatic mounting of USB devices and NextCloud external storage and peer-to-peer

919
00:56:35,834 --> 00:56:37,134
remote connectivity enabled.

920
00:56:37,274 --> 00:56:43,774
You can check it out on my GitHub. up we'll put a link it is a jjack 13 or jj

921
00:56:43,774 --> 00:56:46,134
13 slash nix club we'll put a link in the show notes

922
00:56:46,574 --> 00:56:49,894
the direct p2p connection with no firewall or no ports exposed

923
00:56:49,894 --> 00:56:54,914
it'll work behind your net all you have to do is just scan a qr code you can

924
00:56:54,914 --> 00:56:59,014
also install it on your existing nix system he has a link for that too he says

925
00:56:59,014 --> 00:57:02,894
i also have a pr pending for emerging nix packages when i first tried it blew

926
00:57:02,894 --> 00:57:09,034
my mind you gotta give it a try thanks for the show keep it up that is an awesome project It.

927
00:57:09,034 --> 00:57:12,774
Looks like these peer-to-peer tunnels are from a project called Wholesale.

928
00:57:12,914 --> 00:57:18,234
Wholesale.io looks completely open source, free for some P2P good action.

929
00:57:18,514 --> 00:57:19,254
I should give this a look.

930
00:57:19,634 --> 00:57:22,474
Thanks for letting us know, and thank you for the boost. We'll put those links

931
00:57:22,474 --> 00:57:24,394
in the show notes if people want to check them out.

932
00:57:25,614 --> 00:57:27,994
Augustine boosts in with 20,000 sets.

933
00:57:28,154 --> 00:57:28,554
Hey-o!

934
00:57:31,994 --> 00:57:36,434
My summer vacay started with the mother-in-law's dog sitting on the Ethernet

935
00:57:36,434 --> 00:57:39,154
cable that's plugged into the ISP's little fiber box.

936
00:57:39,294 --> 00:57:39,414
No.

937
00:57:39,574 --> 00:57:40,594
Completely wrecking it.

938
00:57:40,714 --> 00:57:44,234
Oh. That was bad placement, I just gotta say.

939
00:57:44,474 --> 00:57:49,694
So we were cut off from the outside world for two weeks. The ISP was not quick in fixing it.

940
00:57:49,774 --> 00:57:50,634
Oh, that's so frustrating.

941
00:57:50,894 --> 00:57:51,214
That's ouch, yeah.

942
00:57:51,214 --> 00:57:51,674
Oh, man.

943
00:57:52,034 --> 00:57:56,614
This, however, showed self-hosting's true colors. We could still watch shows,

944
00:57:56,774 --> 00:57:58,834
movies, and listen to music from Jellyfin.

945
00:57:58,974 --> 00:58:02,534
And I could listen to audiobooks as well as catching up on Linux Unplugged episodes

946
00:58:02,534 --> 00:58:04,554
that I downloaded with Audio Bookshelf.

947
00:58:04,654 --> 00:58:05,414
That's so great.

948
00:58:05,414 --> 00:58:07,954
It feels as one is cheating the system.

949
00:58:08,034 --> 00:58:10,154
I totally agree with that.

950
00:58:10,274 --> 00:58:14,094
Even though I do think this is how the system and tech and services should work.

951
00:58:14,194 --> 00:58:14,514
Yes.

952
00:58:14,714 --> 00:58:16,394
Here's some sets for the road.

953
00:58:16,894 --> 00:58:21,354
Thank you, Augustin. That's really great. Boy, you and I are locked in on that vibe.

954
00:58:21,374 --> 00:58:25,694
Let me tell you, it's so great, especially when you're offline and it's still

955
00:58:25,694 --> 00:58:26,894
working. It's just, whoo.

956
00:58:27,354 --> 00:58:31,614
It's how technology should be, but it ain't always that way. Appreciate the boost.

957
00:58:32,334 --> 00:58:36,954
I just want to take a moment here to pause and say that was all of our baller boosts.

958
00:58:37,014 --> 00:58:41,394
We haven't even gotten to the slightly less baller boosters, so thank you, everyone.

959
00:58:42,954 --> 00:58:47,514
Now, SatStacker7 did send in two boosts for a total of 7,000 sats.

960
00:58:51,428 --> 00:58:56,308
Hey, it's me, the user who pinged Wes about using Mesh Sidecar with Paperless

961
00:58:56,308 --> 00:58:59,388
Module and apparently triggered last week's Paperless Deep Dive.

962
00:58:59,708 --> 00:59:00,908
Yep, it's your fault.

963
00:59:01,088 --> 00:59:04,528
I am glad to hear you tried it and liked it as much as I do.

964
00:59:04,848 --> 00:59:10,648
I paired it with the old ScanSnap iX1500 duplex scanner and connected it over

965
00:59:10,648 --> 00:59:12,888
USB to the machine where Paperless is running.

966
00:59:13,748 --> 00:59:16,988
I can recommend the Sane project for scanning on Linux combined with the command

967
00:59:16,988 --> 00:59:22,788
line tool Sane Scan PDF that acts as a wrapper and lets you configure scan jobs.

968
00:59:23,088 --> 00:59:27,508
I've heard it works really well. I mean, ultimately, you just need to get that

969
00:59:27,508 --> 00:59:28,948
PDF into the consume folder.

970
00:59:29,208 --> 00:59:34,248
And so you can do that with any old scanner that can out. It doesn't have to

971
00:59:34,248 --> 00:59:36,128
be a PDF, but I think that's probably the preferred format.

972
00:59:36,348 --> 00:59:43,568
But what I love about this setup is with Sane PDF, All your scans go to PDF.

973
00:59:43,748 --> 00:59:44,668
It just produces that PDF.

974
00:59:44,888 --> 00:59:48,228
You could have it go scan directly to the consume folder, which is probably

975
00:59:48,228 --> 00:59:50,628
what SatStacker is doing, and then it just gets imported.

976
00:59:51,408 --> 00:59:55,808
That's pretty nice. All right, so again, that was the SnapScan IX1500 duplex scanner.

977
00:59:56,308 --> 00:59:58,728
Getting tips from the pro. I like it. Thank you.

978
00:59:58,868 --> 01:00:02,928
Yeah, I appreciate that. Okay, Groovy came in with 2,000 sats.

979
01:00:04,168 --> 01:00:07,328
No mess is just value, which we always appreciate. Thank you very much.

980
01:00:07,808 --> 01:00:11,148
Poppy Boosin with 7,832 sats.

981
01:00:12,668 --> 01:00:17,168
Uh-oh Wes guess what zip code is a better deal I love it it's.

982
01:00:17,168 --> 01:00:18,008
Just such a good deal.

983
01:00:18,008 --> 01:00:19,248
It is such a great deal,

984
01:00:22,568 --> 01:00:27,888
this is we appreciate the zip code boost we're making Wes work today he is earning

985
01:00:27,888 --> 01:00:30,808
his split that is for sure okay so we got 7.

986
01:00:30,968 --> 01:00:37,588
8, 3, 2 but first multiply by 11 so naturally Chris as you know that's 86,152.

987
01:00:37,588 --> 01:00:44,528
But then you need to add 1 for the zip code okay Sure we do I love it,

988
01:00:46,288 --> 01:00:49,128
Let's use parenthesis I don't mind holding the corner if you want me to hold

989
01:00:49,128 --> 01:00:56,988
on to that I know it's big Just hold it still Wes I don't know why I have to move it around so much.

990
01:01:00,468 --> 01:01:06,328
Alright do I got this right 7, 8, 3, 2 multiplied by 11 Plus 1 So is that 86.

991
01:01:06,328 --> 01:01:08,548
153 That's my math.

992
01:01:14,426 --> 01:01:14,966
There you go.

993
01:01:15,346 --> 01:01:18,166
Okay, well, let me double check here. We got a couple of leads.

994
01:01:18,486 --> 01:01:23,206
Oh, my God. With the math and all. Okay, what you got for me, Wes?

995
01:01:23,286 --> 01:01:26,606
What you got for me? Maybe this is a postal code in Germany?

996
01:01:27,266 --> 01:01:29,386
Augsburg? A city in the state of Bavaria.

997
01:01:29,706 --> 01:01:30,566
Oh, nice.

998
01:01:30,566 --> 01:01:34,606
That's going to be my official map guess this time around for 86153.

999
01:01:34,806 --> 01:01:37,446
Thanks, Pappy. Let us know if we got it right. That's great.

1000
01:01:39,126 --> 01:01:43,446
Doornail7887 is here with 4,444 stats. That's a big duck.

1001
01:01:44,846 --> 01:01:48,726
Texas Linux Fest, baby. Also, would you mind doing a quick tutorial on setting

1002
01:01:48,726 --> 01:01:50,206
up a small matrix server again?

1003
01:01:50,466 --> 01:01:54,886
I want to join my matrix, but of course, I want to do it the hard way and use

1004
01:01:54,886 --> 01:01:56,226
my own instead of someone else's.

1005
01:01:56,406 --> 01:02:00,546
What is the best way to do this if we don't want to make it publicly routable?

1006
01:02:00,666 --> 01:02:04,666
Is this possible, or does it need to be online for many use cases, for his use cases?

1007
01:02:05,026 --> 01:02:09,146
Well, you probably do need to be online in order to, what do they call it, Wes, when you bridge?

1008
01:02:09,226 --> 01:02:10,206
Talk to other people.

1009
01:02:12,666 --> 01:02:13,906
There's like a terminology, though.

1010
01:02:13,906 --> 01:02:14,246
Federation.

1011
01:02:14,426 --> 01:02:17,246
Yeah, when you federate, thank you, when you federate. So you will want it online,

1012
01:02:17,386 --> 01:02:18,886
but there's a lot of ways you can do that.

1013
01:02:19,546 --> 01:02:23,026
Honestly, I think home matrix servers are a really good idea if you're up for

1014
01:02:23,026 --> 01:02:26,546
the config, which is a bit of an uphill climb, but there's a couple of options

1015
01:02:26,546 --> 01:02:28,986
out there, the Ansible route being probably the most popular.

1016
01:02:29,446 --> 01:02:32,486
You can throw it on a VPS, a pretty cheap one for just a handful of users,

1017
01:02:32,546 --> 01:02:34,206
and that might be the way to do it.

1018
01:02:34,486 --> 01:02:36,166
And I think that's one of the brilliant things about Matrix.

1019
01:02:36,246 --> 01:02:38,486
We shouldn't all be reliant on matrix.org.

1020
01:02:38,946 --> 01:02:42,546
We are looking into Matrix-in-a-box type solutions to recommend to people,

1021
01:02:42,546 --> 01:02:45,346
So if anybody out there has some suggestions, obviously we are aware of the

1022
01:02:45,346 --> 01:02:49,006
Ansible solution, but that might be a bit of a lift for some folks.

1023
01:02:49,566 --> 01:02:52,386
So boost in if you, uh, if you have any suggestions for that.

1024
01:02:52,866 --> 01:02:55,966
Well, Jordan Bravo sends in a good old row of ducks.

1025
01:02:57,386 --> 01:02:57,786
Yay.

1026
01:02:58,686 --> 01:03:03,166
Uh, I thought this was an automated message, but it's not. It says no message, just value.

1027
01:03:03,546 --> 01:03:10,386
Always appreciate that. Hey, guess who's back? Aaron's here with 3,333 sats.

1028
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,440
I just spent six hours troubleshooting why my games were running at two frames

1029
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,380
per second after updating to the NVIDIA driver 580 on Kubuntu.

1030
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:25,180
Turns out, you also need to update the Flatpak NVIDIA components to match the driver version.

1031
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,540
Insert facepalm here. So, if any other noobs like me are running into the same

1032
01:03:29,540 --> 01:03:33,380
problem and have Steam installed through Flatpak, make sure you're running Flatpak

1033
01:03:33,380 --> 01:03:36,000
update. You can do that on the command line, just Flatpak update,

1034
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,340
if you've installed the new NVIDIA driver recently.

1035
01:03:38,580 --> 01:03:41,040
I'm kind of feeling like Chuck E. Cheese out here, boys.

1036
01:03:43,900 --> 01:03:50,320
Hey, Aaron, you got it working, though. That is, there are multiple layers there. It's a good tip.

1037
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,140
That's also, yeah, great PSA. Thank you.

1038
01:03:54,360 --> 01:04:00,200
Hey, and even in the thanks today, we got a Texas boost from MJVC with a little

1039
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,100
tiny binary boost, 1-0-1-0.

1040
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:02,680
Awesome.

1041
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:03,880
Sats for the trip.

1042
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,080
Thank you, everybody. Thank you, everybody. Also, stream sats as you listen.

1043
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:13,220
25 of you did that, and collectively, You stacked 31,884 sats.

1044
01:04:13,460 --> 01:04:22,000
When you combine that with our boosters, we stacked a really incredible 700,287 sats.

1045
01:04:35,369 --> 01:04:37,689
We're getting really close. I'm feeling really good about it.

1046
01:04:38,529 --> 01:04:40,929
I think we're getting, I mean, it's happening.

1047
01:04:41,089 --> 01:04:46,229
That's what I feel like. I mean, we were committed, but we can really start

1048
01:04:46,229 --> 01:04:47,949
actually doing this now. We can book places.

1049
01:04:48,189 --> 01:04:51,189
I don't know if we're fully there yet, but I just really want to say a huge

1050
01:04:51,189 --> 01:04:53,989
thank you for everybody for reaching out and doing this. Think about what we're achieving here.

1051
01:04:54,629 --> 01:04:55,949
We're doing something that traditionally

1052
01:04:55,949 --> 01:04:59,309
has been funded by commercial entities that want an exchange.

1053
01:04:59,329 --> 01:05:01,949
They want us to do something for them or cover their product while we're there,

1054
01:05:02,029 --> 01:05:05,529
whatever it might be, which sometimes is a good fit, but not always. and this time it wasn't.

1055
01:05:05,809 --> 01:05:08,049
And we're doing this now with our community and our audience.

1056
01:05:08,989 --> 01:05:12,409
And it's open source content creation at this point. It really is.

1057
01:05:12,549 --> 01:05:13,909
And we're going 12 years strong.

1058
01:05:14,149 --> 01:05:15,789
We're going to get down there. We're going to have a great time,

1059
01:05:15,909 --> 01:05:20,249
thanks to our audience, for the 12th anniversary and get us set up for another great 12 years.

1060
01:05:20,369 --> 01:05:24,329
Thank you, everybody, who supported it, either with a fake boost or a boosty boost.

1061
01:05:25,049 --> 01:05:27,829
And if you'd like to do that, you can get in on the action with Fountain FM.

1062
01:05:27,829 --> 01:05:30,329
It's probably the easiest way. Or AlbiHub.

1063
01:05:31,069 --> 01:05:32,969
And then you can just use any of the apps that support that.

1064
01:05:33,009 --> 01:05:35,749
It's also a great way to get started. And of course, a big shout out to our

1065
01:05:35,749 --> 01:05:37,929
members who are supporting us every single week.

1066
01:05:38,049 --> 01:05:40,669
You're our foundation out there. We really, really do appreciate you too.

1067
01:05:42,629 --> 01:05:45,049
Okay, how about a couple of picks before we get out of here?

1068
01:05:45,249 --> 01:05:48,089
And then we'll check in on how the old hyper build is going one last time.

1069
01:05:48,389 --> 01:05:53,749
So the first pick this week is, it's a genre now. I think it's officially safe

1070
01:05:53,749 --> 01:05:55,849
to say the lazy genre is a thing.

1071
01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:59,069
And we have a new entrance. It's Lazy SSH.

1072
01:05:59,429 --> 01:06:03,209
A terminal-based SSH manager inspired by Lazy Docker.

1073
01:06:03,789 --> 01:06:09,249
Lazy SSH is a two-week and an interactive SSH manager that sits on top of just

1074
01:06:09,249 --> 01:06:14,469
different directories for managing quite literally a fleet of SSH servers if

1075
01:06:14,469 --> 01:06:16,809
you want. I mean, I have like a handful, right?

1076
01:06:17,029 --> 01:06:19,749
A dozen maybe that I want SSH into, which is nice for.

1077
01:06:20,069 --> 01:06:23,629
So you can navigate and connect and manage and transfer files between your local

1078
01:06:23,629 --> 01:06:27,289
machine and any server that's defined in your SSH config.

1079
01:06:27,849 --> 01:06:30,829
You don't have to remember the IP addresses. You don't really have to worry

1080
01:06:30,829 --> 01:06:34,929
about SCP commands anymore. it all takes care of it with a clean, keyboard-driven TUI.

1081
01:06:36,254 --> 01:06:39,254
It's really sweet. It looks really good. And it's got fuzzy search,

1082
01:06:39,394 --> 01:06:42,074
so if you kind of remember the machine's name or IP, if it's been a while.

1083
01:06:42,894 --> 01:06:46,794
One key press SSH into selected servers. You can tag servers like prod,

1084
01:06:46,994 --> 01:06:50,094
dev. You can sort by alias or last time you logged in.

1085
01:06:50,534 --> 01:06:53,314
Okay, I'll have to give this a try. It does look like quite a nice little two-way.

1086
01:06:53,454 --> 01:06:53,794
It is.

1087
01:06:53,994 --> 01:06:59,854
I like all the color highlighting and stuff too. It seems like I should have needed this years ago.

1088
01:07:00,034 --> 01:07:04,154
I'm loving the lazy. You know, we have lazy Vim. We have lazy Git.

1089
01:07:04,994 --> 01:07:10,694
we have lazy docker and now we have lazy ssh it's pretty new it's 93 percent

1090
01:07:10,694 --> 01:07:17,054
written in go and it's apache licensed so uh you can go have fun with it and

1091
01:07:17,054 --> 01:07:19,614
we'll put a link to that in the show notes for y'all you can check that out.

1092
01:07:19,614 --> 01:07:23,074
Now do you have um lazy hyper vibe because.

1093
01:07:23,074 --> 01:07:25,754
I think we might need that uh-oh okay.

1094
01:07:25,754 --> 01:07:30,034
Well i was able to figure out that well you had auto login going on.

1095
01:07:30,714 --> 01:07:31,294
Oh, really?

1096
01:07:31,454 --> 01:07:34,914
Yeah, you have GDM running, and then it does auto-logging.

1097
01:07:34,934 --> 01:07:36,514
So that must be doing, okay, yeah.

1098
01:07:36,674 --> 01:07:41,314
So I turn that off, and then, so GDM's working again. It was just core dumping before.

1099
01:07:41,914 --> 01:07:45,714
But now, when I try to log in, Hyperland core dumps.

1100
01:07:45,914 --> 01:07:50,574
Oh, man. Do you have any suspicions as to why?

1101
01:07:51,514 --> 01:07:53,274
I'm looking at the logs.

1102
01:07:55,814 --> 01:08:04,354
failed to create DRI2 screen LibGL warning Hyperland has crashed oh there's a crash report yeah.

1103
01:08:04,354 --> 01:08:09,694
I wonder if you're it's interesting I wonder which base config it uses when

1104
01:08:09,694 --> 01:08:12,054
I have two different systems well we're going to play around with that I.

1105
01:08:12,054 --> 01:08:13,394
Based it on Nixstation.

1106
01:08:13,394 --> 01:08:16,554
That makes sense Nixstation has multi screens,

1107
01:08:18,834 --> 01:08:22,934
RVB is a more simpler system with only one screen,

1108
01:08:23,494 --> 01:08:26,574
picked wrong you might have you might have been there if you picked the rvb

1109
01:08:26,574 --> 01:08:30,874
route i don't know but clearly i still have more work to do and i have one more

1110
01:08:30,874 --> 01:08:36,094
pick wes actually found this one is called term dot everything term dot everything

1111
01:08:36,094 --> 01:08:41,814
is a linux command line program to run gui windows inside your terminal quality

1112
01:08:41,814 --> 01:08:44,314
of the window is limited to the number of rows and columns in your terminal,

1113
01:08:45,527 --> 01:08:49,727
But I mean it. If you've got a newer terminal like Kitty or iTerm2 or something

1114
01:08:49,727 --> 01:08:53,327
that supports some video rendering,

1115
01:08:53,587 --> 01:08:59,507
you could take your desktop applications and you can put them in the terminal.

1116
01:08:59,667 --> 01:09:01,487
Wes, I don't know how the hell you found this thing.

1117
01:09:01,587 --> 01:09:02,967
That is bonkers.

1118
01:09:03,507 --> 01:09:06,647
And how I didn't find it during our freaking terminal challenge.

1119
01:09:06,787 --> 01:09:10,127
Well, yeah, no kidding. It works on both X11 and Wayland.

1120
01:09:10,707 --> 01:09:16,447
and in the video demonstration, they show somebody taking their Firefox web

1121
01:09:16,447 --> 01:09:21,247
browser that's watching a YouTube video and pulling it into the terminal and

1122
01:09:21,247 --> 01:09:24,927
then it's being rendered by terminal characters and they're watching a video.

1123
01:09:26,987 --> 01:09:30,407
What is going on? This just completely short circuits my brain.

1124
01:09:31,187 --> 01:09:36,287
There's another screenshot here and the description is Behold as I play a video

1125
01:09:36,287 --> 01:09:41,047
game in a font, in a web browser, in a terminal transmitted over SSH with one

1126
01:09:41,047 --> 01:09:42,487
hand tied behind my back.

1127
01:09:43,187 --> 01:09:44,247
This is our kind of guy.

1128
01:09:44,607 --> 01:09:48,887
Yeah, I think it hooks in as like a Wayland renderer. Like it talks the Wayland

1129
01:09:48,887 --> 01:09:51,087
protocol, but then it uses the terminal to...

1130
01:09:51,087 --> 01:09:54,087
Right. So only certain terminals are going to support this. Kitty,

1131
01:09:54,267 --> 01:09:57,087
which comes pre-installed on Hypervibe, does support this though.

1132
01:09:57,507 --> 01:10:01,287
So, I mean, this is next level stuff.

1133
01:10:01,447 --> 01:10:05,547
This is next level stuff. Go check out the link in the show notes just so you

1134
01:10:05,547 --> 01:10:07,427
can see what the heck we're going on about right now.

1135
01:10:07,767 --> 01:10:10,787
You're not going to believe what they've been able to do with this app and it's

1136
01:10:10,787 --> 01:10:15,167
gpl3 so absolutely crazy and bonkers,

1137
01:10:15,707 --> 01:10:19,147
and worth just going and looking at the videos that they have embedded on the

1138
01:10:19,147 --> 01:10:24,187
github page even if you don't install it just go marvel friends at what is possible and uh,

1139
01:10:25,283 --> 01:10:29,583
Try it out, maybe. That's all I got. I could use a few good picks if people want to send those in.

1140
01:10:29,763 --> 01:10:32,443
If you're looking for an excuse to support our trip to Texas Linux Fest and

1141
01:10:32,443 --> 01:10:34,983
you want to include a pick in your message, I'd love to have that.

1142
01:10:35,283 --> 01:10:38,823
Of course, we're going to be wrapping up this whole getting to Texas Linux Fest,

1143
01:10:39,843 --> 01:10:42,683
essentially next Sunday. It's kind of the last one before we're hitting the road.

1144
01:10:43,443 --> 01:10:46,623
And it's getting really close, you guys. It's getting really close.

1145
01:10:46,943 --> 01:10:50,563
Also, I'll put a link to Hypervibe. It's on my GitHub. I'd love you to go check it out.

1146
01:10:50,943 --> 01:10:53,543
We'll maybe fix up some of this stuff and we'll do a new commit.

1147
01:10:54,303 --> 01:10:58,183
should probably have done a commit before we got down this route but I'd love

1148
01:10:58,183 --> 01:11:00,123
you to check it out and give me your feedback we'll have that linked in the

1149
01:11:00,123 --> 01:11:04,143
show notes and if you give KDE Linux a go we'd love to also capture that experience

1150
01:11:04,143 --> 01:11:06,083
too we will be live next week.

1151
01:11:10,103 --> 01:11:15,023
That's right make it a Tuesday on a Sunday join us 10 a.m. Pacific 1 p.m.

1152
01:11:15,383 --> 01:11:18,543
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01:11:18,543 --> 01:11:22,563
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01:11:22,563 --> 01:11:24,323
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01:11:31,703 --> 01:11:32,963
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1158
01:11:32,963 --> 01:11:34,323
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1159
01:11:34,323 --> 01:11:37,663
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1160
01:11:37,663 --> 01:11:42,263
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1161
01:11:42,263 --> 01:11:46,623
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1162
01:11:46,623 --> 01:11:49,563
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