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<v Chris>This is the Great Holiday Home Lab special, Linux Unplugged, episode 646.

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<v Chris>Welcome in to Linux Unplugged's Great Holiday Home Lab. My name is Chris.

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<v Wes>My name is Wes.

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<v Brent>And my name is Brent.

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<v Chris>Hello, gentlemen. Well, we've gone through hundreds of submissions,

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<v Chris>spent hours making our list and checking them twice.

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<v Chris>And this week, we're going to give you the winners for the best overall home

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<v Chris>lab, the most overkill budget blowout, the tiny Titan that does the most with the least.

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<v Chris>And of course, the sipping sage, the most energy efficient build,

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<v Chris>a bunch of other categories.

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<v Chris>And we will get some final winners. We were blown away by the results.

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<v Chris>I mean, really, they were incredible. But before we get into all of that,

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<v Chris>we got to say time appropriate greetings to our virtual lug. Hello, Mumble Room.

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<v Chris>Hello. Hello to all of you. Hello up there in the quiet listening.

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<v Chris>Of course, everybody listening on the live stream, too.

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<v Chris>Appreciate you joining us on a special holiday episode. And a big happy holidays

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<v Chris>Okay, so before we start, guys, I don't want to get too cheesy or anything like

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<v Chris>this, but I did not expect this to be a bit of a holiday treat for us.

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<v Wes>No, me either.

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<v Chris>I was surprised. I mean, it was a task, but it was also really,

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<v Chris>really humbling, awesome, impressive, all of the above to see everybody's various home labs.

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<v Chris>I mean, you had just absolute scrappy budget builds to total barn burner budgets, you know.

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<v Wes>I mean, you know, stuff with all kinds of, like, multi-state replication and,

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<v Wes>I mean, every scale of setup.

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<v Wes>And it was, you know, kind of, you got a little view and window into all of

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<v Wes>these different setups.

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<v Wes>And it's almost like, you know, we finally get to see a bit of their side.

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<v Wes>We're always showing all of our stuff off. It's great.

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<v Chris>That's true. Yeah.

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<v Brent>I really appreciated a lot of the energy that went into these submissions.

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<v Brent>Like some people wrote some like really interesting observations as to why they're

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<v Brent>even self-hosting, what their mission is, a ton of like photos.

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<v Brent>We even received some videos, tours of home labs. Like it was super impressive.

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<v Brent>So thanks to everyone for taking that time.

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<v Brent>I just had a lot of fun. It's better than TV.

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<v Chris>That's for sure. And some of them included some very kind notes that I shared

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<v Chris>with the wife or Easter eggs in the pictures, which made us smile.

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<v Chris>We were messing each other back and forth. Did you see this? Did you catch that?

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<v Chris>Some of you clearly have budgets, and some of you have been able to get by with

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<v Chris>just an unbelievable setup.

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<v Chris>I mean, I'm talking, you know, multi-GPU, tens and tens of terabytes to machine

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<v Chris>rescued from the dumpster, and that's the home lab. I mean, it really,

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<v Chris>and everything in between.

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<v Chris>It was awesome. Some of you are very, very clever out there at sourcing discounted

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<v Chris>or free slash used gear. I was very impressed.

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<v Wes>I've got a few things over the years, but nothing like this.

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<v Chris>No, very, very scrappy.

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<v Brent>It was, it was very surprising to see the trend that, um, many people who got

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<v Brent>free stuff is just from their employer.

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<v Brent>So it's like, oh yeah, you know, every year we throw out a bunch of stuff and

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<v Brent>yet it doesn't get thrown out. It just goes until their employees own labs.

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<v Chris>Oh yeah. Or a lot of people are good at sourcing companies that are getting rid of gear.

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<v Chris>Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's certainly something. Uh, so we have lots of categories that we do want to cover.

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<v Chris>I mentioned some of them at the beginning of the show. Uh, but we're going to

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<v Chris>start with a category that doesn't necessarily have an award,

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<v Chris>but we still think is very impressive.

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<v Chris>And that's going to be the most self-hosted setup, the mostest, right?

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<v Chris>And so that's where we'll start our holiday home lab special.

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<v Chris>All right, Wes Payne, let's start with Dark Owl, who just has a massive self-hosted

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<v Chris>setup. So we put this in the most self-hosted category.

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<v Chris>And you pulled ahead Dark Owl.

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<v Wes>Yeah, okay, so start off here, take a look at the pictures. We've got just a

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<v Wes>nice little rack setup, nothing obscene or crazy, but...

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<v Chris>It's clean and tidy, I like that.

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<v Wes>Clean and tidy.

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<v Chris>Looks like a master power switch down there at the bottom.

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<v Chris>and telco gear and he's got a nice switch there and some clean patches just

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<v Chris>the right cable lengths you know i mean could be slightly tidier but honestly

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<v Chris>my mess would would be worse than that so i can't critique.

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<v Wes>And we've got plenty of b-links going on we got a b-link ser5 for

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<v Wes>a dev portainer setup so we've got dev and prod going on here we'll hear more

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<v Wes>about that in a sec another b-link with 32 gigs of ram uh set up as like a micro

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<v Wes>pc um we've got a prod portainer setup we've got two orange pi zero threes for

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<v Wes>pihole i assume that's redundant pihole so you gotta have that you.

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<v Chris>Gotta ever done a pihole.

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<v Wes>There's also a six bay nas mini itx going on with

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<v Wes>um two four terabyte hard drives to

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<v Wes>two terabyte hard drives and a one terabyte ssd and 32 gigs

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<v Wes>of ram and a synology that's aging off which makes sense you got to do transition

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<v Wes>right but what stood out to me here is the clever part i do like the mission

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<v Wes>which is simple to the point host videos stores paperwork and allows me to play

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<v Wes>which isn't that i mean isn't that when we come down to it often that's sometimes

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<v Wes>it's like you know real work sometimes it's it's a mix a.

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<v Chris>Little bit of both yeah.

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<v Wes>Okay so the clever part of darko set up i have my own certificate authority

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<v Wes>my entire network runs off of the domain home.darkowl.org which i do not buy

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<v Wes>certificates for and does not exist outside my home lab using step c a,

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<v Wes>And I thought if you're going to be an off-grid operator, having your own certificate

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<v Wes>authorities, you don't have to bother with trusting anybody else out there.

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<v Wes>It's got to get you in the contention.

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<v Chris>I like that he was too afraid to tell us how much power it. He didn't want to check.

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<v Wes>No.

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<v Chris>He didn't want to check.

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<v Wes>Dark Owl is also doing some custom stuff, which I like to see.

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<v Wes>A custom node app that will stitch together Docker configuration files.

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<v Wes>So, for example, when Dark Owl adds a paperless NGX container,

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<v Wes>it'll add the port forwarding to HA proxy and add an entry on my Dashie dashboard,

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<v Wes>board which sounds pretty nice.

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<v Chris>So he technically has two nazes two orange pies running redundant pie hole and

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<v Chris>one of his nazes is massive i mean that's a big just in size that's a big unit

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<v Chris>and it's running open media vault uh huh you know i wonder how he likes that b-link sre 5 max that's,

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<v Chris>that's a nice unit i bet he likes that a lot.

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<v Wes>I can see it in your eyes.

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<v Chris>Yeah yeah and.

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<v Wes>Then we did get a fun little oops moment.

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<v Chris>Yeah tell us about that.

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<v Wes>When i decided to add a new production port which we just talked about.

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<v Wes>I copied my original production server configuration so everything looked the same.

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<v Wes>I was then planning on deleting the configurations and starting production from

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<v Wes>scratch, then switch over when everything was up and running.

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<v Wes>However, I messed up the URL and I ended up deleting all the containers off

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<v Wes>my only Portainer server and had to start from scratch.

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<v Wes>Thankfully, all my configurations were in Git and the files back in the Docker

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<v Wes>containers were on my file server.

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<v Chris>Well done. Well, that's not so bad. I bet the heart rate was going, though.

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<v Wes>No kidding. And it's a backup test, I guess.

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<v Chris>Oh, wow. Well, very well done. All right. While we're looking at the self-hosted

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<v Chris>setups with the Mostis, Captain Reginald also came up.

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<v Chris>He's got a Colorado lab, easy for me to say, a Colorado lab that's remote,

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<v Chris>and he's all in on the Ubiquiti Edge router stuff. And this came up a couple of times, actually.

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<v Chris>But he splits inbound traffic from his modem, he routes it to his parents' home

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<v Chris>router, and he forwards all the ports to a hardware SonicWall firewall.

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<v Wes>Oh, fun.

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<v Chris>So Ubiquiti Edge Router X, then to a SonicWall firewall. I haven't looked at

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<v Chris>a SonicWall in about 200 years.

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<v Wes>And then we've also got an old Dell 24-port gigabit switch in the mix.

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<v Chris>I love those old dell 24 if it's the one i'm thinking of from the era i'm thinking

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<v Chris>of they were sleepers they were really good um then of course he's got a true

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<v Chris>nas with an amd phenom in it.

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<v Wes>We're gonna see a plenty of true nas today that was interesting to see.

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<v Chris>28 gigs in that free nas and he's got three 500 gigabyte hard drives he says

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<v Chris>they're cheap to replace it's sort of motherboard limited though and a gtx 560

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<v Chris>in that thing i wonder if that's useful for anything Yeah.

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<v Wes>Be curious.

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<v Chris>Ubuntu server running a VM for Nextcloud. He's got some other things in there,

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<v Chris>like Music Sync and Password.

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<v Chris>He's got another Ubuntu VM for tinkering and dev work.

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<v Chris>Got to have all his nano configs in one spot.

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<v Wes>I find it interesting to see kind of how people break out. Like,

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<v Wes>do you segment? What do you segment?

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<v Chris>Yeah, yeah. Yeah, interesting. Like, to have like a central nano config and

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<v Chris>project files VM that is sort of like a state, right?

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<v Wes>It's just ready to go. You kind of pop in and start working.

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<v Chris>I don't think I ever would have thought of using a VM for that, but I kind of like it.

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<v Chris>All right, let me run through some of the services he's self-hosting,

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<v Chris>because this is one of the things that pushed it over on my list here.

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<v Chris>Minecraft server, no IP DNS updater for dynamic DNS, Nextcloud,

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<v Chris>Melee, Audiobookshelf, Jellyfin, Pinchflat, MeTube, Firefly 3,

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<v Chris>SyncThing, Dozel, TSD proxy for tail scale container integration.

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<v Chris>And he's also running PyHole with a backup Tailnet subrouter on there.

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<v Chris>And then he has... yeah.

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<v Brent>On a 1b i didn't think those were still useful that's impressive that is impressive.

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<v Chris>That puts in a low power category for that one but it also looks like and we

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<v Chris>all know how this goes i've got one of these he's got a broken server sitting

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<v Chris>around i like that he included this it was a true nes scale third gen intel i7 so it's an older box,

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<v Chris>It was running image and server backup, but the SATA controller failed.

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<v Wes>That's rough. Those sound like important roles. Dang.

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<v Chris>So we're not done yet because he's got a lab in New Mexico on 5G where he's

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<v Chris>got a local laptop running as a server over there running several Docker services

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<v Chris>like Lublogger, SyncThing,

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<v Chris>Uptime Kuma, again, TSD Proxy, and Melee, where he also has a Raspberry Pi 3B running on there.

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<v Wes>Yeah. Come on, Brett.

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<v Chris>And then he's got a kitty of projects, 20 terabytes of loose hard drives and

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<v Chris>SSDs he wants to work on and numerous Windows and Mac OS and old laptops. I know that one.

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<v Chris>Big on the mesh net with tail scale for everything. He says,

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<v Chris>my home lab provides benefits including offsite backups in a different state,

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<v Chris>saving money by not paying for commercial services,

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<v Chris>staying private by keeping my data local, and being a great educational tool for learning Linux.

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<v Wes>Ain't that the truth.

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<v Chris>Mm-hmm. It's great having two lab locations. I love that.

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<v Chris>He says, my best trick is to fix computers for your friends and family.

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<v Chris>And then when they upgrade down the road, they sometimes give you their old

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<v Chris>gear so you can basically run an entire home lab and have backup PCs if one

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<v Chris>goes down off of hardware that you got for free.

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<v Wes>That's what stood out also here. It's a very impressive array of services being

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<v Wes>offered in what seems like a nice setup from a diverse array of stuff.

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<v Chris>And Brent, isn't this a great example of, again, the ingenuity of getting second-hand

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<v Chris>hardware that's still perfectly usable?

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<v Brent>I have 100% done this. It works very well. And most people have old hardware

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<v Brent>that is completely up to this task, just not for their everyday use, right? So why not?

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<v Chris>He did have an oops moment he shared with us. He says, several years ago,

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<v Chris>I was tinkering around trying to figure out how to fully reformat drives in

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<v Chris>the command line on Windows, and I managed to completely brick at least one of them.

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<v Chris>I was also trying to get an ancient NAS from 10 plus years ago to accept some very large drives.

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<v Chris>And while in the deep of the CLI, I managed to also completely brick that.

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<v Chris>So it wouldn't even turn on anymore. That's impressive.

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<v Wes>It's like a firmware brick.

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<v Chris>Well, the Windows command line is powerful. That's what the lesson is.

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<v Wes>Luckily, no data was compromised. Okay.

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<v Chris>Yeah. Wow. How about that? He says he found the show through self-hosted.

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<v Chris>Sad, it's gone, but loves it when we do the Home Lab content.

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<v Wes>Well, thank you for helping.

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<v Chris>Well, there you go. I think, you know, that is an example of a setup that we

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<v Chris>went through that I kind of envy in the sense that he has the two locations.

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<v Chris>I have the studio and I have Joops, but Joops isn't like a fixed thing,

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<v Chris>right? It's more like a mobile thing.

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<v Wes>It's a little sketchy on its own.

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<v Chris>Yeah, the studio is kind of like it's support base in a way,

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<v Chris>right? So it's not really a fair offsite.

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<v Brent>There's plenty of sketch at the studio.

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<v Brent>Let's be honest with ourselves.

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<v Wes>It's fake as we'll hear you.

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<v Chris>Yeah, dude. Jeez, getting by. But then the other thing that I really liked about

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<v Chris>Captain Reginald's setup here, as you notice this, Brent, is he's got some old pies.

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<v Chris>He's got a 1B in production still and a PI 3B still getting used and being used

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<v Chris>for useful stuff like a simple tail scale exit node. That makes a lot of sense.

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<v Chris>I love that. Or a temporary web server. He also uses one of them just as a USB

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<v Chris>power source for a Mesh-tastic node.

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<v Chris>It's just great use of old hardware, which will be relevant,

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<v Chris>I think, in the predictions episode. I'm not giving it away.

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<v Wes>You've been doing your homework.

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<v Chris>I've started a little bit.

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<v Wes>I hate that.

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<v Chris>You boys better get ready because I'm going to.

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<v Brent>When you can't sleep, you start dreaming of predictions.

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<v Chris>I'm going to try to bring the predictions game this year. All right.

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<v Chris>So those were just some of the kind of honorable, not so honorable mentions.

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<v Chris>We also have an honorable mentions category, so don't call it that.

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<v Chris>The not so honorable. No, those are just the big.

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<v Wes>There's plenty of honor involved.

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<v Chris>Yeah. Those are just some of the ones we wanted to pull forward.

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<v Chris>But now we're going to get into the categories.

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<v Chris>Unraid.net slash unplugged. Unleash your hardware.

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<v Chris>Check out Unraid. They really go from strength to strength. And when I was going

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<v Chris>through our home lab holiday submissions, so many awesome setups using Unraid.

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<v Chris>And it just makes sense. You hear us talk about a cool project here on the show.

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<v Chris>You can get right to it with Unraid because they have just such an impressive

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<v Chris>And really, those are getting better, too, with Unraid's new official API.

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<v Chris>That was part of the new 7.20 release that came out just a little bit ago.

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<v Chris>Some ZFS work went in there and TFS support went in there. So you can get grandpa's

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<v Chris>photos off your old hard drive.

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<v Chris>But I think, you know, I mean, also the responsive UI. I mean,

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<v Chris>there's so many things I could talk about, but what just keeps blowing me away

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<v Chris>is the way the community is building around this new open source Unraid API.

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<v Chris>It just unlocks so much custom new dashboards, new ways of automation.

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<v Chris>I really it's scripting home assistant. I mean, I'm just like,

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<v Chris>oh, wow. It's like one. I mean, I know it wasn't a little thing. Right.

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<v Chris>But that one thing just unlocked a whole world. It's so, so great what's going on over there.

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<v Chris>Really just giving you more power, more flexibility. You can start with what

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<v Chris>you have in the closet right now, and it will grow with you if you want to go

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<v Chris>just even further and further.

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<v Chris>And with expanded ZFS support, you can migrate from some of your older systems.

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<v Chris>Like if you had like an Ubuntu system running ZFS, and you want to move it over

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<v Chris>to a proper Unraid setup, well, they make that really simple now.

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<v Chris>It's so great. If you're a home lab enthusiast or if you're just getting started,

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<v Chris>maybe you're a small business that needs some infrastructure for your team.

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<v Chris>Unraid 7.2 gives you the tools to build and scale the way you want.

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<v Chris>There's already well over 25,000 people, that's the last time I checked,

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<v Chris>that are using Unraid 7.2. It's just been a banger release.

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<v Chris>So go download a free 30-day trial at unraid.net slash unplugged,

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<v Chris>see why everybody's loving it, and support the show.

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<v Chris>That's unraid.net slash unplugged.

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<v Chris>Okay, here's where things get a little tough. This is the showdown where we

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<v Chris>have to advocate for category winners.

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<v Chris>We have picked our contenders who we think deserve winners to different categories.

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<v Chris>And Brent, you are going to kick us off with your pitch for who should win the

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<v Chris>Glorious Disaster Award.

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<v Brent>I am this one i particularly felt

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<v Brent>very you know when you go through one of these

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<v Brent>and then you get an instant strong pang feeling

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<v Brent>where you're like wow this fits that category yeah

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<v Brent>well that fit for me when i saw the last photo in their submission and uh so

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<v Brent>i'd nominate for this category distro stew uh distro stews setup seems pretty

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<v Brent>great one of the photos though my goodness it looks,

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<v Brent>i mean i've i've done slightly better than this and that's not saying much expect this,

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<v Brent>actually i.

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<v Chris>Did not expect you throwing distro stew under.

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<v Brent>The bus well i did i did.

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<v Wes>Note the note from distro stew about the fan uh-huh that stood out to me maybe

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<v Wes>i should have picked up on the signal yeah.

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<v Chris>Okay what was the note about the fan do you have it there.

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<v Wes>Yeah the clever part see that hanging fan on the top uh i put it there a while

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<v Wes>back to cool my overheating 24 port data center switch that switch is long gone

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<v Wes>but i kept the fan around who knows what would happen if i remove it.

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<v Brent>And like, to be fair, it's like he has a mini rack with some devices in it and that all looks good.

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<v Brent>And the cables and stuff look fairly organized.

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<v Brent>The angling fan got me to kind of think, oh, what's going on here?

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<v Brent>There's some ingenuity here, at least.

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<v Brent>Then reading that note and knowing it's doing exactly nothing just got me to

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<v Brent>think, this is so perfect.

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<v Brent>But I got to tell you, that last photo of just like, if I had to describe it,

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<v Brent>it's basically looks like a pile of half taken apart computers.

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<v Brent>Many of them seem like their innards have just been sort of taken out of their respective computers.

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<v Brent>And yet there are like LEDs on of each of these pieces and they're plugged into cables.

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<v Brent>So they must be doing something right. And it's, I think,

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<v Brent>also just the perspective of the photo just makes it look like someone threw

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<v Brent>a bunch of computers into a pile and then plugged them all together,

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<v Brent>and somehow that's running part of Homelab. So I really love that.

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<v Chris>All right, you're making a good case for Distress 2 to be the Glorious Disaster.

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<v Chris>Wes, do you have a pick for a Glorious Disaster?

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<v Wes>I do, I do. I would like to nominate the one, the only Magnolia Mayhem.

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<v Wes>uh-oh okay um let's

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<v Wes>say let's a little quick blurb here chaotic free bsd

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<v Wes>nix os hybrid from recycled school hardware uh no backup services run honest

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<v Wes>and alive that was my short description that i wrote down but mayhem himself

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<v Wes>just says almost all recycled parts a bsd machine came from a school recycling

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<v Wes>pile for 20 dollars network sweats from an old shipping container isp setup yes,

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<v Wes>the mission even is self-descriptive which I love it's not really a home lab

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<v Wes>so much as it is a cry for help.

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<v Chris>Well, that tells you.

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<v Wes>There's personal trackers. There's LubeLogger. There's Pinchflat.

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<v Wes>Three instances, no less. PodCash, love it. Image.

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<v Chris>Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Three instances of Pinchflat?

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<v Wes>I mean, that's what Mayhem says.

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<v Chris>That's a bit of a disaster. Boy, you're making a good case, too.

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<v Chris>I mean, especially because he says it's a cry for help.

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<v Wes>That's a category opt-in if I've ever heard one.

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<v Chris>All right. Well, that's a good

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<v Chris>contender. So we got distro stew and you're putting mayhem under the bus.

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<v Chris>This one's the school bus.

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<v Wes>Yeah.

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<v Chris>Yeah. Mayhem was listening live. This next one's tricky, too,

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<v Chris>because Haleas is also listening live.

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<v Chris>I have to put Haleas up as a contender for the glorious disaster just because

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<v Chris>they have a completely deserted rack with what is classically a to do pile of

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<v Chris>drives on the table, like an NVR located somewhere like in the roof.

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<v Chris>it's kind of wild it's kind of chaotic and I also I identify with it you know

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<v Chris>what I mean like identify with it so I had to kind of put Halea up there,

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<v Chris>I mean the cry for help is a good one Brent I think I actually think it's I

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<v Chris>mean my boy after hearing your guys I think this.

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<v Wes>Is why it was hard.

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<v Chris>I think it comes down for glorious disaster contenders between distro stew and

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<v Chris>mayhem Brent do you want to make a case for distro stew over mayhem just real

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<v Chris>quick just like a anything because i mean that cry for help from me,

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<v Chris>that's a bad home like.

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<v Brent>Distro stew also has a 10 gig switch that is not in use yet he just says.

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<v Chris>It's quite loud and.

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<v Brent>It's just sitting there.

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<v Chris>Oh he has a powered on uh-huh.

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<v Brent>He's also got a a daisy chained uh set of power strips and he says an honest

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<v Brent>spaghetti cable management style.

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<v Chris>Yeah so So there's.

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<v Brent>You know, at least some might.

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<v Chris>Yeah, you can respond.

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<v Wes>Okay, here's Mayhem's oops moment. Collected several one terabyte drives in

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<v Wes>a Z2 raid. Bad things happened.

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<v Wes>Tried to re-silver, which killed the spare. No backups.

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<v Wes>Inadvertently deleted nearly my entire laptop.

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<v Wes>so does that get some sympathy.

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<v Chris>Maybe yeah yeah i feel like we could do the most probably for mayhem over a

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<v Chris>call but i'm not sure right what do you think that's kind of my because whoever

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<v Chris>wins the glorious disaster award and.

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<v Wes>Maybe we'll get to see distros too if.

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<v Chris>That's true goes.

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<v Wes>To planet nix again or scale don't know.

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<v Chris>Which one do you think we could make a bigger impact if we.

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<v Brent>So there's you know potential there to help with uh indoctrination.

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<v Wes>Right we said don't.

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<v Brent>Say that on the show.

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<v Chris>I'm sorry damn it all right i i could i could give it to distro stew you want

00:23:47.372 --> 00:23:51.072
<v Chris>to give it to distro let's give it to stew all right distro stew you congratulations

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<v Chris>are our winner of the glorious disaster,

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<v Chris>We will have to get in touch and schedule a call, perhaps maybe next 28th on the Sunday.

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<v Chris>We'll just do it in the pre-show and do a little consulting with DistroStu.

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<v Chris>All right. So the disaster goes to DistroStu. Congratulations.

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<v Brent>I think it's disaster, Stu.

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<v Wes>Thank you for being willing to submit your home lab and to throw yourself under the bus.

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<v Chris>That's very true. We had fun. All right. So that moves us now on to something a little more positive.

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<v Chris>The setup with the most potential. The one to watch that could get somewhere.

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<v Chris>Brantley, do you have a contender for the category with the most potential?

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<v Brent>I do. I have one contender for this category.

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<v Chris>Okay.

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<v Brent>This is Pixie. So I chose Pixie's submission here because I felt like they were in transition.

00:24:45.734 --> 00:24:48.514
<v Brent>So from one style of HomeLab to another.

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<v Brent>And so he basically says here, let me give you the mission. HomeLab contains

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<v Brent>one TrueNess CE machine. That's a community edition featuring Jellyfin,

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<v Brent>the R, Stack, Tailscale, Handbrake, SyncThing, Calibre, and more.

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<v Brent>The machine is now a production media server for friends.

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<v Brent>The majority of the content is ripped DVDs and Blu-rays that are owned.

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<v Brent>Jellyfin now replaces all the streaming services that we used to use.

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<v Brent>That's the collective of friends.

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<v Chris>Okay, give me their name again.

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<v Brent>This is Pixie, P-I-X-I-E.

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<v Chris>You are winning me over with the media stuff, okay?

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<v Brent>Mm-hmm. The aim is to expand these services when three new 20-terabyte refurbished

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<v Brent>Iron Wolf drives arrive soon to add paperless,

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<v Brent>NG image, and more, or basically whatever you guys keep recommending on the show.

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<v Brent>It says the hardware may look extreme, but it's my old gaming PC replaced by the Steam Deck.

00:25:48.513 --> 00:25:51.313
<v Brent>So basically, they don't need that gaming PC anymore. They got a Steam Deck.

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<v Chris>That's great.

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<v Brent>Got a couple of Raspberry Pis that run a home assistant. Enough said there.

00:25:56.873 --> 00:26:01.913
<v Brent>And the network runs off a stock ISP router and a little Netgear.

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<v Brent>And he says here, I have dreams of bigger and shinier machines, read Unify.

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<v Brent>The extra four terabyte higher drives will get moved to become the in-house

00:26:11.673 --> 00:26:13.153
<v Brent>backups for docs, images.

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<v Brent>And I really would like recommendations for privacy conscious VPSs for those backups.

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<v Chris>I would too. All right. Pixie, that's a strong contender. Wes,

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<v Chris>do you have a contender for the most potential?

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<v Wes>Yes, I do. I would like to nominate Abe.

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<v Chris>Oh, yes. I remember Abe's, all right, give it to me. Why would you nominate Abe for most potential?

00:26:35.406 --> 00:26:40.586
<v Wes>Yeah, well, just to start, you got to check out this sweet 3D printed LabRax

00:26:40.586 --> 00:26:43.826
<v Wes>10U unit going on here because it's just beautiful.

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<v Chris>Abe.

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<v Wes>But then also, okay, so part of, here's the mission statement.

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<v Wes>Part of my home lab is an actual lab where I'm running my mini-me project,

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<v Wes>inspired by the Bobiverse.

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<v Wes>The rest of it are just servers providing services to friends and family,

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<v Wes>but that's books, movies, and shows, password managers, OIDC,

00:26:59.966 --> 00:27:03.166
<v Wes>IRCBots, AGAs, C2M, HA, backups, etc.

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<v Chris>I just got to book two of the Bobverse.

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<v Wes>So then maybe you get what's going on here. Because, inspired by that,

00:27:11.166 --> 00:27:15.366
<v Wes>the project aims to create persistent, autonomous AI agents called ABES that

00:27:15.366 --> 00:27:18.566
<v Wes>manage and optimize a home lab environment.

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<v Chris>So

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<v Wes>Shouldn't you be watching that we gotta watch that.

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<v Chris>Wow hey the ab-verse yeah so.

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<v Wes>Yeah there you go.

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<v Chris>That's strong that's strong thankfully i'm

00:27:31.086 --> 00:27:33.806
<v Chris>very confident in mine mine is very strong too i do

00:27:33.806 --> 00:27:37.146
<v Chris>have a couple of contenders in this one but uh

00:27:37.146 --> 00:27:39.866
<v Chris>i'm gonna have to give it to mega i want to i want

00:27:39.866 --> 00:27:43.806
<v Chris>to submit mega to the most potential here mega is

00:27:43.806 --> 00:27:47.466
<v Chris>16 years old they're building custom python downloaders and

00:27:47.466 --> 00:27:53.506
<v Chris>running home assistant in proxmox they've built the entire thing on rescued

00:27:53.506 --> 00:27:59.966
<v Chris>machines and they are quickly learning sysadmin skills and providing home hosting

00:27:59.966 --> 00:28:06.586
<v Chris>to various members and i think when you talk about potential here and one to watch,

00:28:07.978 --> 00:28:13.338
<v Chris>mega at 16 years old it's really incredible i mean that's really something so

00:28:13.338 --> 00:28:17.298
<v Chris>i don't know how we make a choice here we have pixie abe and mega i've.

00:28:17.298 --> 00:28:20.978
<v Brent>Basically been trying to do this for 16 years i've gotten nowhere close to what

00:28:20.978 --> 00:28:24.958
<v Brent>what they're doing so i feel like that's worth watching.

00:28:24.958 --> 00:28:29.778
<v Chris>Okay so do you you want to get on board with mega are you switching i'm gonna i'm.

00:28:29.778 --> 00:28:35.238
<v Brent>Gonna yeah i'm gonna switch sorry pixie love you but uh i think i'm gonna switch to a mega vote.

00:28:35.238 --> 00:28:39.298
<v Chris>West do you want to try to make a fighting response for Abe?

00:28:39.578 --> 00:28:44.218
<v Wes>Well, you just, I mean, we're in the era of AI, and when you have AI bots that

00:28:44.218 --> 00:28:48.418
<v Wes>are going to improve your home lab, the potential is seemingly endless.

00:28:49.898 --> 00:28:52.638
<v Chris>Okay, it's a good argument. That's a good argument.

00:28:54.998 --> 00:28:58.558
<v Brent>I think these two should get together and do a collaboration.

00:28:59.238 --> 00:29:01.798
<v Brent>That way, we have the best.

00:29:01.978 --> 00:29:06.038
<v Chris>Can we do a dual winner? A tie between Abe and Mega?

00:29:06.258 --> 00:29:07.878
<v Wes>This is the first year, so we're setting precedent.

00:29:08.138 --> 00:29:12.938
<v Chris>I feel like we should because the Babaverse appeal is so strong and I am so

00:29:12.938 --> 00:29:14.838
<v Chris>impressed with what Mega has gotten done.

00:29:14.958 --> 00:29:15.318
<v Wes>Yes, definitely.

00:29:16.458 --> 00:29:22.218
<v Chris>All right. I think we're going to call it. It's a strong double win for the

00:29:22.218 --> 00:29:25.378
<v Chris>most potential. It goes to Abe and Mega. Congratulations.

00:29:25.878 --> 00:29:27.678
<v Chris>You've really built something pretty special.

00:29:31.299 --> 00:29:35.839
<v Chris>All right. So now we get to a category that I find personally very interesting.

00:29:36.199 --> 00:29:37.519
<v Brent>Maybe that's why it's in here.

00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:37.939
<v Wes>Yeah.

00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:39.479
<v Brent>Who made these categories?

00:29:39.859 --> 00:29:40.359
<v Wes>There's a couple of those.

00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:43.439
<v Chris>The Sip and Sage.

00:29:43.439 --> 00:29:44.779
<v Wes>I don't remember getting a review document.

00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.259
<v Chris>So this is the labs with the best energy efficiency.

00:29:51.819 --> 00:29:55.839
<v Chris>And this is always really interesting because it's fun to figure out how people do this.

00:29:56.199 --> 00:30:01.179
<v Chris>And, Brentley, I'd like to start with you. So who do you have for your contender

00:30:01.179 --> 00:30:05.439
<v Chris>or contenders for best energy efficient sipping sage home lab?

00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:09.439
<v Brent>I have two contenders here. I'm curious if any of ours overlap.

00:30:09.679 --> 00:30:13.499
<v Brent>So I chose Hen Bagel and also Dares 19.

00:30:13.899 --> 00:30:15.659
<v Brent>Do either of you have either of those?

00:30:15.899 --> 00:30:16.679
<v Chris>No, I do not.

00:30:16.979 --> 00:30:20.879
<v Brent>Okay. Well, I chose these because they, well, were clearly sippers,

00:30:21.199 --> 00:30:23.179
<v Brent>but they're both a little bit different.

00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:29.439
<v Brent>So Henbagel here has a Lenovo ThinkCenter M720S. Sound familiar, Chris?

00:30:29.659 --> 00:30:29.719
<v Chris>Yeah.

00:30:31.019 --> 00:30:38.059
<v Brent>It's got 64 gigs of RAM, 4 terabytes, SSD for storage, running Proxmox,

00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:40.839
<v Brent>a mix of LXCs, Debian VMs.

00:30:41.019 --> 00:30:45.139
<v Brent>There's a media server also, Raspberry Pi 5.

00:30:45.339 --> 00:30:45.679
<v Chris>Nice.

00:30:45.679 --> 00:30:49.439
<v Brent>It's got one of those MVME hats, so it's running Raspbian.

00:30:50.199 --> 00:30:53.899
<v Brent>There's also a bunch of Docker Compose stacks in there.

00:30:54.019 --> 00:30:58.279
<v Brent>There's another Raspberry Pi 3B. It's basically e-waste from work,

00:30:58.439 --> 00:31:00.059
<v Brent>which is a theme we've seen a lot in here.

00:31:00.199 --> 00:31:04.099
<v Brent>It's currently running Fedora IoT for learning and experimentation.

00:31:05.059 --> 00:31:11.879
<v Brent>There's a free router from Facebook Marketplace running extremely old version of DWRT.

00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:13.499
<v Brent>I've never done that before.

00:31:14.299 --> 00:31:18.199
<v Brent>It's basically pulling triple duty as a router, an access point, and a switch.

00:31:18.199 --> 00:31:20.539
<v Chris>As you do when you're doing energy efficiency.

00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:24.459
<v Brent>There's a mobile home internet gateway in the lab. Yay, triple net.

00:31:24.959 --> 00:31:28.819
<v Brent>And basically backups from a UPS device.

00:31:29.618 --> 00:31:34.298
<v Brent>Pro 1500, and there's also a gaming PC in there, which is not part of the sipping

00:31:34.298 --> 00:31:35.958
<v Brent>part, but he gives some stats on there.

00:31:36.378 --> 00:31:40.178
<v Brent>It says, basically, my Pi 5 is for general infrastructure, running things such

00:31:40.178 --> 00:31:43.118
<v Brent>as Pi Holes, NetServer, ReverseProxy for the home lab.

00:31:43.278 --> 00:31:47.838
<v Brent>Additionally, the Pi 5 runs services like Paperless, Vault Warden,

00:31:47.938 --> 00:31:51.998
<v Brent>LubeLogger, FreshRSS, Melee, and data is backed up to BlackBlaze.

00:31:52.158 --> 00:31:56.018
<v Brent>The Lenovo Tower is my media server, running Jellyfin and a pile of R's.

00:31:56.018 --> 00:32:00.578
<v Brent>I also use it to test distributions and other software stacks and VMs.

00:32:00.738 --> 00:32:02.718
<v Brent>I value simplicity and documentation.

00:32:02.918 --> 00:32:09.058
<v Brent>Short-term goals are drastically increasing my usage of Ansible and other infrastructure

00:32:09.058 --> 00:32:16.498
<v Brent>as code tools, potentially using a self-hosted Forgeo and switching maybe to Podman as well.

00:32:16.998 --> 00:32:21.958
<v Brent>So the clever part here, my pile of interconnected shell scripts that stop all.

00:32:21.958 --> 00:32:25.638
<v Brent>My containers, individually back up all of their data using Restic and start

00:32:25.638 --> 00:32:26.678
<v Brent>all the containers again.

00:32:26.878 --> 00:32:30.418
<v Brent>Each container has its own script detailing which directories it will back up

00:32:30.418 --> 00:32:33.978
<v Brent>and if or how to get the data out of it.

00:32:34.438 --> 00:32:38.758
<v Brent>So basically, there's a restore script for every single service. And they're tested.

00:32:38.898 --> 00:32:42.718
<v Chris>I like that. This is the energy efficient category. Give me the name again just

00:32:42.718 --> 00:32:43.438
<v Chris>so I can make sure I have it.

00:32:43.778 --> 00:32:45.618
<v Brent>This is Hen Bagel.

00:32:45.738 --> 00:32:46.138
<v Chris>Oh, yeah.

00:32:46.338 --> 00:32:46.638
<v Brent>H-E-N.

00:32:47.237 --> 00:32:49.157
<v Chris>Hen Bagel is going to be featured in our outro song.

00:32:49.357 --> 00:32:51.097
<v Brent>Okay. You ready for the number that actually matters?

00:32:51.297 --> 00:32:51.917
<v Chris>Yeah, I am.

00:32:52.557 --> 00:32:56.597
<v Brent>Here's the idle use. Yep. 32 watts.

00:32:56.857 --> 00:32:58.137
<v Chris>That is pretty great.

00:32:58.417 --> 00:33:01.817
<v Brent>That does not include the gaming PC. Okay. They had a little note here.

00:33:01.997 --> 00:33:04.917
<v Brent>My home lab is on wheels, so I can clean the cat hair out from behind it.

00:33:05.037 --> 00:33:06.677
<v Chris>I love that. That was like, that made me laugh.

00:33:06.677 --> 00:33:09.277
<v Brent>There have been numerous cat-inflicted service outages.

00:33:09.917 --> 00:33:14.077
<v Chris>All right, Hen Bagel. That's pretty great. 32 watts is pretty competitive.

00:33:14.617 --> 00:33:18.337
<v Chris>Wes Payne, do you have a contender for the sipping sage?

00:33:18.517 --> 00:33:21.897
<v Wes>Yeah, let's go with the cane CTL, cane control.

00:33:22.877 --> 00:33:24.217
<v Chris>Cane CTL, all right.

00:33:24.677 --> 00:33:30.837
<v Wes>Yeah, okay, so we got some gear here, an Intel Pentium silver board N6005 with six SATA ports.

00:33:31.237 --> 00:33:32.757
<v Chris>Ooh, what? Really?

00:33:32.897 --> 00:33:35.897
<v Wes>Yeah, 32 gigs of RAM, one terabyte SSD for the main storage,

00:33:36.057 --> 00:33:44.197
<v Wes>four terabyte NVMe for fast storage, 2x Seagate IronWolf Pro 18 terabytes for Blu-ray rips. Nice.

00:33:44.917 --> 00:33:48.177
<v Wes>Jellyfin videos, music, and stuff like that's on the fast storage, which is great.

00:33:48.317 --> 00:33:48.457
<v Chris>Yep.

00:33:48.697 --> 00:33:52.297
<v Wes>And it's a backup target. I avoid spinning up hard drives as much as possible

00:33:52.297 --> 00:33:53.477
<v Wes>to minimize power usage.

00:33:53.697 --> 00:33:55.397
<v Chris>Oh, okay. Right there. That's,

00:33:56.347 --> 00:33:59.687
<v Chris>When I see a couple of these people are doing dynamic things to spin things

00:33:59.687 --> 00:34:02.667
<v Chris>up only when they're needed. Yeah, that's commitment. That's sipping.

00:34:03.407 --> 00:34:06.067
<v Wes>Okay, the mission, started as a learning platform, still is,

00:34:06.247 --> 00:34:09.327
<v Wes>three years ago with the main focus to learn more about NixOS,

00:34:09.667 --> 00:34:11.367
<v Wes>self-hosting, and system administration.

00:34:11.367 --> 00:34:12.427
<v Chris>I see why you picked this one.

00:34:12.487 --> 00:34:17.007
<v Wes>Learning to love System D and NixOS. This server now runs my smart home,

00:34:17.127 --> 00:34:22.467
<v Wes>media server, Jellyfin and Navidrome, backup services, document management, and many more.

00:34:23.327 --> 00:34:26.267
<v Chris>Do we have a wattage? Do we have a bottom line number there?

00:34:26.347 --> 00:34:29.727
<v Chris>I know sometimes people included that. That's a pretty impressive setup.

00:34:30.367 --> 00:34:33.127
<v Wes>Yes. I think we've got about 21 watts idle.

00:34:35.747 --> 00:34:39.227
<v Wes>Also, there's some BcacheFS involved here. Yep, idle is 21 watts.

00:34:39.467 --> 00:34:42.267
<v Chris>Come on. BcacheFS too? All right, Kane.

00:34:42.267 --> 00:34:44.447
<v Brent>I think this is a made-up home lab just to hit all our boxes.

00:34:44.667 --> 00:34:47.067
<v Wes>Yeah, here we go. Extra notes. I always wanted to have my own NAS,

00:34:47.167 --> 00:34:51.627
<v Wes>and when I got my first disposable income, I looked for an interesting NAS-fitting

00:34:51.627 --> 00:34:55.187
<v Wes>Linux distributions. I read about NixOS a few years ago, looked for a podcast

00:34:55.187 --> 00:34:58.267
<v Wes>covering the topic, and learned about Linux Unplugged.

00:34:58.367 --> 00:35:02.867
<v Wes>Now it's a NAS Jellyfin server home assistant running BcacheFS and uses a custom kernel.

00:35:03.747 --> 00:35:04.487
<v Chris>Oh, God.

00:35:04.807 --> 00:35:05.507
<v Brent>Chris, did you submit this one?

00:35:05.627 --> 00:35:09.607
<v Chris>I know, that's right. It's speaking to my heart. And I got to play rough because

00:35:09.607 --> 00:35:14.567
<v Chris>I was going to submit DMK USA or Dan because he's got a great setup,

00:35:15.047 --> 00:35:20.147
<v Chris>an entire stack, switches included, Pi, Wi-Fi, everything.

00:35:20.707 --> 00:35:24.827
<v Chris>He says, I don't sacrifice any utility, and he gets it for 34 watts.

00:35:24.987 --> 00:35:28.887
<v Chris>But the problem is, is Hen Bagel's coming in at 32 watts, and Kane's coming

00:35:28.887 --> 00:35:30.867
<v Chris>in at 21 watts, so I need to be competitive here.

00:35:31.047 --> 00:35:36.407
<v Chris>So I'm going to go with my most competitive pick, and that is Kepler.

00:35:38.627 --> 00:35:41.007
<v Chris>Kepler has gone crazy.

00:35:42.366 --> 00:35:45.946
<v Chris>My dream route. Everything is directly DC powered.

00:35:46.226 --> 00:35:51.326
<v Chris>There's no AC to DC conversion happening in Kepler setup. And they have designed

00:35:51.326 --> 00:35:54.266
<v Chris>the ultimate off-road expedition truck.

00:35:54.826 --> 00:36:01.006
<v Chris>Every single watt has been scrutinized as you have to do. Get this.

00:36:02.388 --> 00:36:04.708
<v Chris>15.8 watts at idle.

00:36:05.108 --> 00:36:05.988
<v Brent>Come on.

00:36:06.908 --> 00:36:13.028
<v Chris>That's even when, actually, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 15.8 watts idle for a full media server.

00:36:13.808 --> 00:36:17.188
<v Chris>He's very, very, he went through the details. And I have to say,

00:36:17.308 --> 00:36:22.488
<v Chris>Kepler has, he has designed this entire home lab from a watts first principle.

00:36:22.488 --> 00:36:26.128
<v Chris>And he manages a 15.8. I can't even imagine.

00:36:26.308 --> 00:36:29.268
<v Chris>Mine right now has got to be closer to 70.

00:36:29.868 --> 00:36:34.388
<v Chris>I mean, it's really gotten out of control. And to get the full stack that he's

00:36:34.388 --> 00:36:38.448
<v Chris>achieved for 15.8 watts, I wouldn't have thought possible.

00:36:38.848 --> 00:36:48.228
<v Chris>So I'm putting Kepler down as my contender for the sipping sage.

00:36:48.428 --> 00:36:52.408
<v Chris>Does anybody want to argue 15.8 watts?

00:36:54.328 --> 00:36:59.748
<v Brent>I would like to add to this submission, if you'll allow me to.

00:36:59.828 --> 00:37:00.268
<v Chris>Yeah, yeah, please.

00:37:00.968 --> 00:37:06.808
<v Brent>I had Kepler as my choice, top choice for the Tiny Titan as well.

00:37:07.088 --> 00:37:10.668
<v Chris>It's a tricky overlap between some of those. There is some overlap there.

00:37:10.868 --> 00:37:15.968
<v Chris>But I think that could be argument for winning this particular segment.

00:37:16.068 --> 00:37:20.648
<v Brent>I think that, yes, I'm going to also suggest that. I will also say Kepler had

00:37:20.648 --> 00:37:26.608
<v Brent>the photograph of their home lab that made me the most jealous of any of the home lab photographs.

00:37:27.508 --> 00:37:34.268
<v Brent>mostly because the background is a bunch of like really super sweet car projects

00:37:34.268 --> 00:37:37.228
<v Brent>that are in the loft that they're in they.

00:37:37.228 --> 00:37:41.148
<v Chris>Have this really cool looking pc that's like an open case design.

00:37:41.148 --> 00:37:42.808
<v Brent>That one right yeah.

00:37:42.808 --> 00:37:43.988
<v Chris>That was very cool.

00:37:43.988 --> 00:37:48.528
<v Brent>Basically he says the background shows my workshop and loft i currently live

00:37:48.528 --> 00:37:54.168
<v Brent>in with some motorcycles a honda cb 550 cafe racer and a car a toyota land cruiser

00:37:54.168 --> 00:38:00.128
<v Brent>hj 60 and a fiat panda 141 a as projects what a setup,

00:38:01.187 --> 00:38:05.727
<v Brent>I admit I got entranced by the background and forgot to look at the home lab.

00:38:05.827 --> 00:38:06.927
<v Brent>And then I was like, wait, why am I here?

00:38:08.487 --> 00:38:15.527
<v Brent>I loved Kepler's setup for their home lighting and definitely saw that as the

00:38:15.527 --> 00:38:18.187
<v Brent>potential for what my own home lab could be in the future.

00:38:18.427 --> 00:38:23.627
<v Brent>So I'm going to give a strong vote to Kepler for this one.

00:38:23.627 --> 00:38:26.867
<v Chris>So you're getting on board with the Chris train. I like that. I mean, 15.

00:38:26.867 --> 00:38:27.147
<v Brent>Yep.

00:38:27.547 --> 00:38:32.647
<v Chris>Wes Payne, can you argue with 15.8 watts even? Can you even attempt to argue that?

00:38:32.947 --> 00:38:37.187
<v Wes>Well, see, I do want to, but then I have one that I want to use for Tiny Titan, so...

00:38:37.187 --> 00:38:37.867
<v Chris>You're going to give it to Kepler?

00:38:38.007 --> 00:38:38.267
<v Wes>Yes.

00:38:38.927 --> 00:38:41.547
<v Chris>Congratulations, Kepler. You are our sipping sage.

00:38:46.727 --> 00:38:50.667
<v Chris>All right, now let's get to that Tiny Titan category. We need to just knock this out right now.

00:38:50.827 --> 00:38:55.327
<v Chris>The idea of this category is they do the most with the least hardware.

00:38:55.667 --> 00:38:58.147
<v Chris>Brent, do you have a contender for our Tiny Titan?

00:38:58.147 --> 00:39:05.927
<v Brent>I am going to nominate Dares19, who I thought I was as a sipping sage,

00:39:06.087 --> 00:39:08.847
<v Brent>but really they're using twice as much as calories.

00:39:09.387 --> 00:39:16.687
<v Brent>But what stood out here for me was that this is a pies only setup.

00:39:17.550 --> 00:39:19.210
<v Brent>There are only Pis in this home lab.

00:39:19.210 --> 00:39:19.710
<v Chris>I love that.

00:39:19.770 --> 00:39:23.410
<v Brent>There are many Pis in this home lab. There are six Raspberry Pis,

00:39:23.770 --> 00:39:26.870
<v Brent>and they all are doing something a little different.

00:39:27.070 --> 00:39:30.850
<v Brent>So here we go. One of them is called the Londro Pie. It's in the laundry room.

00:39:31.430 --> 00:39:36.390
<v Brent>It's a Raspberry Pi 4. It's got an NVMe on it as well. There's another Raspberry

00:39:36.390 --> 00:39:39.250
<v Brent>Pi here. It's basically a compute module 4.

00:39:39.710 --> 00:39:47.470
<v Brent>The other Pi, number 3, is a Pi 5 with 8 gigs of RAM and NVMe also on there.

00:39:47.550 --> 00:39:50.310
<v Brent>number i don't know what is this for i

00:39:50.310 --> 00:39:52.990
<v Brent>ran out is a raspberry pi 4 with one

00:39:52.990 --> 00:39:55.910
<v Brent>of those poe hats on it nice and uh

00:39:55.910 --> 00:39:58.810
<v Brent>the second to last pi here is another pi

00:39:58.810 --> 00:40:01.950
<v Brent>4 4 gig and the last one is another

00:40:01.950 --> 00:40:04.870
<v Brent>pi 4 4 gig so here's the mission all

00:40:04.870 --> 00:40:07.770
<v Brent>pies run one or two docker compose files

00:40:07.770 --> 00:40:10.890
<v Brent>the home lab is centered around home assistant which lives on pi

00:40:10.890 --> 00:40:14.390
<v Brent>number one along with an nginx proxy linked

00:40:14.390 --> 00:40:17.450
<v Brent>doing a bunch of fancy network stuff that i don't really get

00:40:17.450 --> 00:40:23.310
<v Brent>the second pi is only running pi hole for dns and points to the internal domains

00:40:23.310 --> 00:40:29.570
<v Brent>to pi number one pi number three is the home lab work that runs 20 containers

00:40:29.570 --> 00:40:35.050
<v Brent>such as mealy audiobook shelf music assistant jelly fin and some others.

00:40:36.010 --> 00:40:39.010
<v Brent>Another pi here is uh basically not in

00:40:39.010 --> 00:40:41.870
<v Brent>the laundry room which i think is where their main home lab is but is

00:40:41.870 --> 00:40:48.010
<v Brent>in a central position in the house running zig b mqtt and a little mqtt on there

00:40:48.010 --> 00:40:53.470
<v Brent>okay there's another pie here in his in their parents house in another country

00:40:53.470 --> 00:40:58.570
<v Brent>running tail scale as an exit node and the last pie currently at their sister's

00:40:58.570 --> 00:41:01.110
<v Brent>house and will also be a tail exit node.

00:41:02.012 --> 00:41:02.492
<v Chris>Wow.

00:41:02.732 --> 00:41:04.492
<v Wes>A nice little tail scale setup too.

00:41:04.652 --> 00:41:09.632
<v Chris>That's a strong setup. That's a really strong contender for the Tiny Titan.

00:41:09.752 --> 00:41:13.332
<v Brent>There's some extra highlights here that you'll appreciate, Chris,

00:41:13.352 --> 00:41:15.612
<v Brent>if you'll allow me to just give a little bit more.

00:41:16.392 --> 00:41:20.872
<v Brent>Not necessarily part of the pies, but all of my lights and light switches are smart.

00:41:21.012 --> 00:41:25.512
<v Brent>However, they still work in case the Zigbee controller is down and home assistant

00:41:25.512 --> 00:41:27.492
<v Brent>is down and Wi-Fi is down.

00:41:27.732 --> 00:41:33.552
<v Brent>This is because the Zigbee bindings from switches to lights and because I flashed

00:41:33.552 --> 00:41:34.892
<v Brent>some Shelleys with ESP Home.

00:41:35.092 --> 00:41:39.912
<v Brent>So the home approval factor is through the roof, except during their biggest oops.

00:41:40.132 --> 00:41:43.972
<v Chris>That is something we should talk more about is Zigbee, Z-Wave, and a couple others.

00:41:44.312 --> 00:41:48.692
<v Chris>They do offer the ability to essentially create control groups.

00:41:48.772 --> 00:41:51.252
<v Chris>I'm probably getting this wrong, but control groups where the logic actually

00:41:51.252 --> 00:41:54.732
<v Chris>happens on the devices themselves. And so you don't need a controller operational.

00:41:55.352 --> 00:41:59.732
<v Chris>That is an extremely, extremely strong contender, I think, for the Tiny Titan.

00:41:59.732 --> 00:42:03.472
<v Chris>And Wes Payne, you have yourself quite the task.

00:42:03.772 --> 00:42:08.812
<v Wes>I do. I do. But I think our dear Brentley may have misread the brief because

00:42:08.812 --> 00:42:12.152
<v Wes>it's actually trying to do the most with the least.

00:42:12.692 --> 00:42:16.732
<v Wes>So I would like to submit Tom Chuggler the gear.

00:42:17.152 --> 00:42:22.932
<v Wes>A lonely Raspberry Pi 400 with a 2 terabyte USB SSD.

00:42:23.212 --> 00:42:25.412
<v Wes>But the mission, the mission is broad.

00:42:25.912 --> 00:42:28.432
<v Wes>Cody Media Center with additional services running in Docker.

00:42:28.432 --> 00:42:30.752
<v Wes>Like we got the OS is LibreElec.

00:42:30.992 --> 00:42:34.692
<v Wes>We have things like Samba, PyHole, Transmission, you know, for downloading those

00:42:34.692 --> 00:42:38.232
<v Wes>Linux distributions and Shinobi home security monitoring.

00:42:38.512 --> 00:42:39.812
<v Chris>Ah, that's great.

00:42:40.012 --> 00:42:44.012
<v Wes>Also using GPIO and some Python to add IR remote control.

00:42:44.512 --> 00:42:49.092
<v Wes>Now you've also got to factor in here. I know my idle power. It's three watts.

00:42:49.312 --> 00:42:50.052
<v Chris>Shut up.

00:42:51.113 --> 00:42:52.373
<v Wes>Three watts.

00:42:52.973 --> 00:42:54.533
<v Chris>Tom, how is that?

00:42:54.793 --> 00:42:57.613
<v Wes>And then extra notes. Docker is amazing. At various times, our media center

00:42:57.613 --> 00:43:01.173
<v Wes>has had a web-based game emulator, Minecraft server, and much more.

00:43:01.393 --> 00:43:04.053
<v Wes>The main thing, though, is Piehole keeping the internet clean for the kid.

00:43:04.653 --> 00:43:08.033
<v Wes>Cody doesn't do YouTube that well, so we do have a separate Raspberry Pi OS

00:43:08.033 --> 00:43:10.313
<v Wes>SD card with FreeTube on it for that.

00:43:10.473 --> 00:43:12.573
<v Chris>But he's not doing a different machine. He's just swapping. Same thing.

00:43:12.853 --> 00:43:16.793
<v Wes>And the media center is also a retro game emulator, SD card with retro Pi,

00:43:16.953 --> 00:43:19.953
<v Wes>and a couple of PS2 controllers, plug-in, and play.

00:43:19.953 --> 00:43:22.373
<v Chris>So, like, depending on what they want to do, you swap in SD cards?

00:43:22.573 --> 00:43:22.773
<v Wes>Yeah.

00:43:23.193 --> 00:43:26.073
<v Chris>Huh. So is that two systems total that I counted there?

00:43:26.173 --> 00:43:28.973
<v Wes>No, it's just the one. It's a single Raspberry Pi 400.

00:43:29.313 --> 00:43:29.713
<v Chris>Oh.

00:43:29.933 --> 00:43:30.753
<v Brent>But it's just multi-purpose.

00:43:31.193 --> 00:43:33.433
<v Wes>Yeah, a couple different SD card OSes.

00:43:33.433 --> 00:43:33.973
<v Brent>That's brilliant.

00:43:34.193 --> 00:43:36.433
<v Chris>Swap it. Wow. That's tough.

00:43:36.653 --> 00:43:39.293
<v Wes>So, you know, if you're thinking doing the most with the least,

00:43:39.533 --> 00:43:41.853
<v Wes>I think it's a strong contender.

00:43:41.953 --> 00:43:46.493
<v Chris>That's a strong... Damn, Wes. Well done. All right. Well, my Tiny Titan,

00:43:46.853 --> 00:43:53.393
<v Chris>I do have, see, I have DARS-19 as my runner-up, so I'll give a plus one to DARS-19.

00:43:53.713 --> 00:43:58.333
<v Chris>I will just also mention that I thought the Tiny Titan maybe should go to Simon.

00:43:59.173 --> 00:44:06.353
<v Chris>Simon has a itsy-bitsy rack stack of N100s, and he's done 3D printed enclosures for them.

00:44:06.413 --> 00:44:06.613
<v Brent>Ooh.

00:44:06.993 --> 00:44:08.133
<v Wes>You know, we aren't giving- It's small.

00:44:08.313 --> 00:44:08.993
<v Chris>It's modern.

00:44:09.413 --> 00:44:13.113
<v Wes>We aren't giving hardware awards, but the N100 might have earned itself on with

00:44:13.113 --> 00:44:14.693
<v Wes>just the submissions that we got.

00:44:14.693 --> 00:44:19.293
<v Chris>For real I just thought it was dense powerful and modular but I'm having a hard

00:44:19.293 --> 00:44:23.253
<v Chris>time my only thing is I think I think I want to throw behind oh boy I'm having a,

00:44:24.187 --> 00:44:26.807
<v Chris>I think I'm going to throw behind Tom. I thought I was going to do DIRS 19,

00:44:26.827 --> 00:44:31.727
<v Chris>but if you go by the spirit of the category, Tom is doing the most with the least there.

00:44:32.807 --> 00:44:36.047
<v Chris>Brantley, how do you feel about that? Could you give it to Tom in the spirit of?

00:44:36.427 --> 00:44:37.647
<v Brent>Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

00:44:37.907 --> 00:44:40.007
<v Chris>Getting the mileage out of that Pi 400? Yeah.

00:44:40.327 --> 00:44:40.687
<v Brent>Yes.

00:44:40.847 --> 00:44:41.567
<v Chris>That's impressive.

00:44:42.287 --> 00:44:46.647
<v Brent>What would you do with another Pi? That was a question I would want to forward.

00:44:47.107 --> 00:44:49.267
<v Chris>Yeah. I almost want to send him one just to find out.

00:44:49.687 --> 00:44:53.127
<v Wes>Yeah, we'd like to do some Pi redistribution here. There's just something's not right.

00:44:54.187 --> 00:44:56.067
<v Chris>Congratulations, Tom. You are our tiny Titan.

00:44:59.755 --> 00:45:06.215
<v Chris>All right, so now it's a pretty fun category. It's the most overkill budget blowout build.

00:45:06.555 --> 00:45:11.515
<v Chris>I mean, you know, people, they have hobbies. They spend a lot of money on those hobbies.

00:45:11.755 --> 00:45:15.675
<v Chris>Sometimes home labbing is one of them. And, Brentley, who is your contender

00:45:15.675 --> 00:45:17.715
<v Chris>for the most overkill budget?

00:45:18.695 --> 00:45:26.135
<v Brent>There were some super impressive builds with some equally jealous making photos

00:45:26.135 --> 00:45:28.215
<v Brent>accompanying those builds throughout.

00:45:28.215 --> 00:45:35.055
<v Brent>I didn't think a home lab could be so large, but I do have someone who stood out for me.

00:45:35.275 --> 00:45:38.155
<v Brent>Surf Rock 66 stood out for me.

00:45:38.515 --> 00:45:46.155
<v Brent>They built a custom bookshelf that basically hides the entire home lab.

00:45:46.155 --> 00:45:50.995
<v Brent>And if you know how to open the bookshelf, then the bookshelf opens and you

00:45:50.995 --> 00:45:53.115
<v Brent>gain access to the entire home lab,

00:45:53.215 --> 00:45:58.935
<v Brent>which also has built in cooling, has exterior access so you can get to it from

00:45:58.935 --> 00:46:01.915
<v Brent>like outside the building as well.

00:46:03.055 --> 00:46:07.875
<v Brent>And like, there's a heck of a lot of stuff behind that bookshelf.

00:46:08.035 --> 00:46:13.875
<v Brent>And they even submitted a, like a video walkthrough of the entire build and

00:46:13.875 --> 00:46:16.915
<v Brent>what's going to happen in the future to make it even more impressive.

00:46:18.415 --> 00:46:24.215
<v Brent>This was just blew me away. This submission. So I, that's gotta be my choice.

00:46:24.315 --> 00:46:25.395
<v Brent>Surf rock. You blew me away.

00:46:25.835 --> 00:46:30.895
<v Chris>Well, I'll go ahead and reveal right now. Surf rock was my runner up.

00:46:31.946 --> 00:46:35.226
<v Wes>I also had SurfRock in contention for something else, not this one.

00:46:35.426 --> 00:46:35.606
<v Chris>Really?

00:46:35.906 --> 00:46:37.306
<v Wes>But SurfRock definitely stood out.

00:46:37.386 --> 00:46:41.346
<v Chris>You know, what I liked about SurfRock setup, what spoke to me deeply and personally,

00:46:41.366 --> 00:46:46.646
<v Chris>is that they have a custom open LDAP schema just to manage central authentication

00:46:46.646 --> 00:46:49.266
<v Chris>across everything, like their Wi-Fi and everything.

00:46:49.806 --> 00:46:55.646
<v Chris>And that speaks to me because if I had all the energy in the world and time,

00:46:55.946 --> 00:46:59.826
<v Chris>there'd be a lot of things I'd do before I get to setting up a central open LDAP server.

00:47:00.426 --> 00:47:05.286
<v Chris>but it would be one of the things i would get to and i dream about it so i also

00:47:05.286 --> 00:47:10.666
<v Chris>i had surf rock 66 as my runner-up for the most overkill budget and i also i

00:47:10.666 --> 00:47:14.926
<v Chris>do love those uh r740xd's those are uh yeah that's.

00:47:14.926 --> 00:47:17.746
<v Brent>Yeah it doesn't i guess it makes sense to go through the hardware in this.

00:47:17.746 --> 00:47:20.226
<v Chris>Particular category i think it does yeah yeah okay.

00:47:20.226 --> 00:47:23.666
<v Brent>So here's the list of the gear that was at least included in the submission.

00:47:24.586 --> 00:47:30.026
<v Brent>Three PowerEdge R740XDs. So those are two U servers.

00:47:30.246 --> 00:47:34.286
<v Brent>They both run Proxmox and they're wasted from work. Lucky duck.

00:47:34.726 --> 00:47:40.726
<v Brent>A Supermicro 4U 36 Bay TrueNAS got 44 terabytes of spinning,

00:47:41.026 --> 00:47:45.506
<v Brent>seven terabytes of SSDs, basically for VMs and such.

00:47:46.404 --> 00:47:52.984
<v Brent>there are two desktop class pcs running as public minecraft servers two apc

00:47:52.984 --> 00:47:58.884
<v Brent>ups's and extended run cabinets those are also e-wasted from work uh there's

00:47:58.884 --> 00:48:03.244
<v Brent>a brocade icx 6610 l3 switch,

00:48:03.844 --> 00:48:08.584
<v Brent>has 10 gig fiber there's an aruba 2930f 48

00:48:08.584 --> 00:48:11.484
<v Brent>port switch that's also e-wasted from

00:48:11.484 --> 00:48:14.384
<v Brent>work i see a theme here uh so here's

00:48:14.384 --> 00:48:17.224
<v Brent>the mission hidden in a closet behind a custom bookshelf with its own

00:48:17.224 --> 00:48:21.044
<v Brent>external ac so a dedicated server uh

00:48:21.044 --> 00:48:26.624
<v Brent>air conditioning which is very fancy three dedicated power circuits uh 30 plus

00:48:26.624 --> 00:48:31.764
<v Brent>vms and two minecraft servers that they essentially have uh the internet on

00:48:31.764 --> 00:48:37.304
<v Brent>land so they can operate fully offline with those minecraft servers some services

00:48:37.304 --> 00:48:38.404
<v Brent>jellyfin Home Assistant,

00:48:38.844 --> 00:48:41.804
<v Brent>some internal DHCP and file servers.

00:48:43.064 --> 00:48:49.064
<v Brent>QWix, which is with Wikipedia and the Khan Academy, so they can use those being

00:48:49.064 --> 00:48:53.664
<v Brent>personally indexed, Nextcloud, Audiobookshelf, two piles with different upstreams for adults and kids,

00:48:54.384 --> 00:49:00.144
<v Brent>a certificate authority, asterisk PBX for an HTML5 SIP client they developed,

00:49:00.444 --> 00:49:04.944
<v Brent>Vault Warden Fresh RSS, Pinchflat to keep the kids off real YouTube,

00:49:05.224 --> 00:49:10.624
<v Brent>Shinobi nvr apache guacamole for remote access open ldap with a custom schema

00:49:10.624 --> 00:49:17.344
<v Brent>they built plus simple saml php to service oidc and saml wow okay zabbix for

00:49:17.344 --> 00:49:21.844
<v Brent>monitoring those minecraft servers with mumble integration and a bunch of small

00:49:21.844 --> 00:49:24.044
<v Brent>web apps they've developed or deployed.

00:49:24.965 --> 00:49:34.185
<v Chris>I feel like Sir Frog should come run our infrastructure Wow okay Wes Can you Try to beat that?

00:49:34.185 --> 00:49:38.085
<v Wes>I have a contender Sir Mysterion I.

00:49:38.085 --> 00:49:39.125
<v Chris>Love the name.

00:49:39.125 --> 00:49:44.925
<v Wes>Yeah okay so we have An Intel NUC running It's got 16 gigs of RAM running Proxmox

00:49:44.925 --> 00:49:49.685
<v Wes>We have a desktop Ryzen 64 gigs of RAM Proxmox gaming pass through We have a

00:49:49.685 --> 00:49:52.205
<v Wes>Super Micro CS This is Super Micro 1,

00:49:53.245 --> 00:49:56.545
<v Wes>2X E5s, Xeons I assume in there,

00:49:56.885 --> 00:50:02.305
<v Wes>192 gigs of RAM, I guess that's offline has some offline discs and stuff,

00:50:02.425 --> 00:50:11.965
<v Wes>JBOD and second Supermicro 2X E5 2690 V4s another 192 gigs of RAM this is for

00:50:11.965 --> 00:50:18.785
<v Wes>Proxbox and then Supermicro 3 that's 8X E5 2630 V3s,

00:50:18.925 --> 00:50:25.865
<v Wes>that's got 256 gigs of RAM that's hci hyperconverged proxmox uh plus drdb a.

00:50:25.865 --> 00:50:26.625
<v Chris>Lot of proxmox.

00:50:26.625 --> 00:50:29.705
<v Wes>Uh we've got 10 terabytes of ssd storage usable

00:50:29.705 --> 00:50:33.885
<v Wes>and 38 terabytes of hard drive storage usable the

00:50:33.885 --> 00:50:36.805
<v Wes>mission everything and anything sandbox for work

00:50:36.805 --> 00:50:39.665
<v Wes>sometimes advanced networking ipv6 only when

00:50:39.665 --> 00:50:42.405
<v Wes>i can jellyfin image next cloud home assistant for

00:50:42.405 --> 00:50:45.805
<v Wes>the family cited network ad blocking clusters hyperconverged

00:50:45.805 --> 00:50:49.225
<v Wes>proxmox advanced routing BGP and OSPF starting

00:50:49.225 --> 00:50:55.245
<v Wes>to look into EVPN and VXLAN IAC deployed VMs in NixOS config minimal windows

00:50:55.245 --> 00:51:00.205
<v Wes>unless I have to test something built my own 3D printer for anything else I

00:51:00.205 --> 00:51:04.005
<v Wes>need printed also host some services for a friend such as BeerTube and Mastodon

00:51:04.005 --> 00:51:08.885
<v Wes>that's great some Kubernetes added some Olama and cheap Tesla P4 oh,

00:51:09.985 --> 00:51:15.105
<v Wes>clever parts got also got a NixOS daily driver laptop with full description nice um,

00:51:16.271 --> 00:51:22.651
<v Wes>I think this helps. So I didn't submit it for the sipper because the HomeLab idle is 980 watts.

00:51:24.471 --> 00:51:28.791
<v Chris>That's a baller budget just on the power right there. That's the sip? That's just the sip?

00:51:29.111 --> 00:51:29.831
<v Brent>Oh, man.

00:51:29.971 --> 00:51:33.151
<v Chris>Oh, wow. So when it's cranking like on an old llama job or something,

00:51:33.151 --> 00:51:34.411
<v Chris>it's higher than that. Okay.

00:51:34.711 --> 00:51:38.271
<v Wes>The oops moment. I added enough servers that the breaker kept tripping.

00:51:38.371 --> 00:51:38.631
<v Chris>I bet.

00:51:38.851 --> 00:51:40.411
<v Wes>Had to upgrade to 20 amp circuit.

00:51:40.651 --> 00:51:41.751
<v Chris>My man. All right.

00:51:41.751 --> 00:51:45.691
<v Wes>And the extra notes. Do you know how hard it is to saturate a 40 gig network card?

00:51:46.271 --> 00:51:49.931
<v Wes>Well, I don't know either. Something about multi-core iPerf tests required.

00:51:50.151 --> 00:51:52.171
<v Wes>Don't have the disk bandwidth to make use of it either.

00:51:52.271 --> 00:51:52.911
<v Chris>Yeah, isn't that tricky?

00:51:53.411 --> 00:51:54.271
<v Wes>So, there you go.

00:51:54.451 --> 00:51:55.531
<v Chris>Okay. All right.

00:51:55.751 --> 00:52:00.231
<v Wes>And it's a very, if you look at the picture, it's a very nice little rack set up, and it looks nice.

00:52:01.031 --> 00:52:02.951
<v Chris>Pretty good. Serer Mysterion is pretty good.

00:52:03.131 --> 00:52:11.131
<v Brent>Just a slight point to add to my submission. Surf Rock's idle is 1,500 watts.

00:52:13.231 --> 00:52:16.871
<v Chris>Surf Rock. Wow. All right.

00:52:16.951 --> 00:52:17.271
<v Brent>Yeah.

00:52:17.471 --> 00:52:21.211
<v Chris>That's pretty good. I mean, it's cute that you guys are measuring by power,

00:52:21.311 --> 00:52:23.011
<v Chris>but this was supposed to be the budget blowout.

00:52:23.131 --> 00:52:26.191
<v Chris>So my contender is Optic Tiger.

00:52:26.491 --> 00:52:31.051
<v Chris>And the reason why is we have a dollar figure on just one of the rigs in Optic

00:52:31.051 --> 00:52:33.991
<v Chris>Tiger's setup. It's not $3,000.

00:52:35.031 --> 00:52:38.871
<v Chris>It's not a $6,000 server. It is not an $8,000 server.

00:52:39.311 --> 00:52:43.491
<v Chris>It is not a $12,000 server. No, is it a $14,000 or $15,000 server?

00:52:43.611 --> 00:52:50.491
<v Chris>No, it's not even an $18,000 server. It is a $20,000 custom Epic server with

00:52:50.491 --> 00:52:57.491
<v Chris>an A6000 GPU and 100 terabytes of enterprise SSD storage.

00:52:57.731 --> 00:52:58.231
<v Brent>What?

00:52:58.431 --> 00:53:04.331
<v Chris>He's essentially built himself a tier three data center disguised as a home server.

00:53:04.551 --> 00:53:06.531
<v Chris>I mean, this thing is high end. That's incredible.

00:53:08.665 --> 00:53:12.905
<v Chris>So, now I don't know what his power run rate is, but I know that his entry rate

00:53:12.905 --> 00:53:17.025
<v Chris>for that server is 20 grand plus all the networking equipment, the rack, all of it.

00:53:18.965 --> 00:53:23.125
<v Chris>So, it's a tough call because these are all really good. These are all very good.

00:53:23.785 --> 00:53:27.225
<v Brent>I think you would call that a budget blowout. Yeah.

00:53:27.585 --> 00:53:30.345
<v Chris>I feel like with this with the dollar amount on there kind of gives it,

00:53:30.865 --> 00:53:32.965
<v Chris>I mean, one box is 20 grand.

00:53:34.045 --> 00:53:36.025
<v Brent>Right? What are they doing with it?

00:53:37.185 --> 00:53:39.325
<v Chris>Well probably high performance thought simulating.

00:53:40.845 --> 00:53:41.825
<v Wes>What else do you do.

00:53:42.465 --> 00:53:48.605
<v Chris>So okay anybody I mean can you beat that can you beat 20 grand can you be it,

00:53:49.625 --> 00:53:54.105
<v Chris>going once anybody you want to make a case otherwise I think it could be a contender here it's.

00:53:54.105 --> 00:54:00.685
<v Brent>Very strong I mean custom it just I mean it didn't specifically say monetary

00:54:00.685 --> 00:54:04.465
<v Brent>budget so I'm going to say building a custom bookshelf with your woodworking

00:54:04.465 --> 00:54:06.285
<v Brent>skills is it takes a lot of time.

00:54:06.285 --> 00:54:08.485
<v Chris>Oh my god you know design dedication.

00:54:08.485 --> 00:54:13.785
<v Brent>And and uh therefore you know it's an impressive set of.

00:54:13.785 --> 00:54:18.065
<v Chris>Multi-skills to pull it off but all these home labs are a large time investment,

00:54:18.925 --> 00:54:23.605
<v Chris>so true i think we can go by the budget i tried west pain you got any arguments i.

00:54:23.605 --> 00:54:24.445
<v Wes>Think i have to give it.

00:54:24.445 --> 00:54:25.105
<v Chris>All right i.

00:54:25.105 --> 00:54:25.945
<v Wes>Think i'm in i can't.

00:54:25.945 --> 00:54:30.985
<v Chris>Tiger i think we give it to you for that one $20,000 custom Epic server with

00:54:30.985 --> 00:54:37.665
<v Chris>an A6000 GPU and 100 terabytes of enterprise SSD storage housed in a home lab

00:54:37.665 --> 00:54:40.025
<v Chris>disguised as a tier three data center.

00:54:40.205 --> 00:54:44.865
<v Chris>You, sir, are our most overkill budget blowout for the holiday home lab special.

00:54:53.715 --> 00:55:00.235
<v Chris>Now we get to our final category, gentlemen, and that is the best overall home lab.

00:55:00.475 --> 00:55:03.275
<v Chris>Now, this was so...

00:55:04.095 --> 00:55:05.455
<v Brent>Basically impossible to choose.

00:55:05.615 --> 00:55:09.335
<v Chris>Right? It was impossible. This was so impossible that we realized next year

00:55:09.335 --> 00:55:13.575
<v Chris>what we would like to do if we do this again is do community ranking for some of these.

00:55:13.735 --> 00:55:17.435
<v Chris>Because it was... There are so many good submissions.

00:55:17.975 --> 00:55:22.715
<v Chris>There are so many. And it took us all hours to go through them.

00:55:23.455 --> 00:55:28.975
<v Chris>Like then when I whittled it down to my, to my top list, that was still 30 ish

00:55:28.975 --> 00:55:31.595
<v Chris>picks that I then had to whittle it down from even further.

00:55:33.295 --> 00:55:37.055
<v Chris>Absolutely amazing. The submissions we got from all different ends of the spectrum,

00:55:37.055 --> 00:55:40.675
<v Chris>but we do have to pick one overall winner.

00:55:40.895 --> 00:55:45.575
<v Chris>And so Brent, do you have the best overall home lab contender?

00:55:45.775 --> 00:55:48.695
<v Brent>I found this the most difficult thing to choose.

00:55:48.835 --> 00:55:49.495
<v Wes>Well, yeah. Yeah.

00:55:51.135 --> 00:55:57.875
<v Brent>No, but like emotionally, because I feel like everybody has a different purpose

00:55:57.875 --> 00:56:01.255
<v Brent>for their home lab. And like, who am I to say what the best one is?

00:56:01.295 --> 00:56:08.215
<v Brent>Because I don't know what I'm doing. So I am going to go with the one I fell in love with.

00:56:08.215 --> 00:56:14.675
<v Brent>So I'm going to say Kepler, your little tiny machine that was a 15 watt sipper

00:56:14.675 --> 00:56:18.915
<v Brent>and did a ton of stuff and you're moving it into your off-road expedition truck

00:56:18.915 --> 00:56:21.215
<v Brent>with your sweet loft project,

00:56:21.475 --> 00:56:23.575
<v Brent>you know, car projects that won me over.

00:56:23.815 --> 00:56:27.855
<v Brent>I'm, uh, I'm saying you got a sweet rig there and that's a, that's,

00:56:27.915 --> 00:56:30.195
<v Brent>that's the best home overall home lab I saw.

00:56:30.415 --> 00:56:33.755
<v Chris>I like that. Kepler is a good contender. That's a good one.

00:56:35.112 --> 00:56:36.012
<v Chris>Okay, Wes Payne.

00:56:36.412 --> 00:56:39.232
<v Wes>I would like to submit Dan from Down Under.

00:56:39.472 --> 00:56:40.632
<v Chris>Oh, interesting. Okay.

00:56:40.992 --> 00:56:45.892
<v Wes>Yeah. A sweet rack on wheels.

00:56:46.132 --> 00:56:49.492
<v Wes>I just, I love it. It came in handy for Dan, which we'll talk about.

00:56:49.672 --> 00:56:52.272
<v Wes>And then just a nice little from the top, we've got a patch panel,

00:56:52.432 --> 00:56:57.852
<v Wes>custom rack mount from Things in Rack, POE switch, netgate 1100 router with

00:56:57.852 --> 00:57:00.132
<v Wes>PFSense on there, Raspberry Pi 4,

00:57:00.672 --> 00:57:04.252
<v Wes>some extra stuff for 2U power draws, 2x

00:57:04.252 --> 00:57:07.572
<v Wes>dell wise thin clients and 3d printed rack mount intel

00:57:07.572 --> 00:57:10.912
<v Wes>j 5005 with 4 gigs of ram 512 gig

00:57:10.912 --> 00:57:13.992
<v Wes>sata m2 for you server on

00:57:13.992 --> 00:57:17.492
<v Wes>rails pi kvm inside the case uh there's

00:57:17.492 --> 00:57:20.312
<v Wes>just so much going on here uh there's another azrok going on

00:57:20.312 --> 00:57:23.532
<v Wes>in here but check out the mission various self-hosted

00:57:23.532 --> 00:57:27.412
<v Wes>apps including image nextcloud paperless piehole audio

00:57:27.412 --> 00:57:30.912
<v Wes>bookshelf jellyfin bitcoin node the r suite monitoring grafana

00:57:30.912 --> 00:57:34.252
<v Wes>prometheus scrutiny ghost folio which is investment tracking wow

00:57:34.252 --> 00:57:37.792
<v Wes>grist and node red link warden miniflux tandoor sterling

00:57:37.792 --> 00:57:40.872
<v Wes>pdf beaver habits getia duplicati rustic server

00:57:40.872 --> 00:57:44.052
<v Wes>kubernetes zfs with mirrors used for everything

00:57:44.052 --> 00:57:48.752
<v Wes>there's a fast pool and a slow pool sanoid making hourly snapshots of most volumes

00:57:48.752 --> 00:57:53.352
<v Wes>shared postgres between all services to make good backups easier uh there's

00:57:53.352 --> 00:57:57.512
<v Wes>also of course um so one of the wisest is doing home assistant running haos

00:57:57.512 --> 00:58:01.012
<v Wes>another one is off but It might be the Bitcoin node.

00:58:01.592 --> 00:58:04.232
<v Wes>The Raspberry Pi was doing Zigbee to MQTT.

00:58:04.652 --> 00:58:05.092
<v Chris>Okay.

00:58:05.492 --> 00:58:08.692
<v Wes>There's also, and this is stuff we do, there's a Linode VPS named Outpost,

00:58:08.832 --> 00:58:10.032
<v Wes>which I think is a classy name.

00:58:10.312 --> 00:58:14.512
<v Wes>Synapse Matrix server with a WhatsApp and Signal Bridge. Traffic and Tailscale

00:58:14.512 --> 00:58:16.352
<v Wes>used to provide access to some of the stuff.

00:58:16.812 --> 00:58:21.432
<v Wes>Uptime Kuma, Rally, Nostra Relay, Mumble. Backups with Autorestick to the home

00:58:21.432 --> 00:58:23.512
<v Wes>server. All managed with Terraform.

00:58:23.852 --> 00:58:23.992
<v Chris>Okay.

00:58:24.272 --> 00:58:27.372
<v Wes>So there's a 3D printed rack mounts for non-rack mountable gear.

00:58:27.492 --> 00:58:28.532
<v Wes>It's a really nice little touch.

00:58:29.112 --> 00:58:32.472
<v Wes>idle for all this is like 100 watts, which is,

00:58:33.100 --> 00:58:35.480
<v Wes>That's, you know, being pretty conservative, I think.

00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:36.280
<v Brent>The entire rack?

00:58:36.500 --> 00:58:36.640
<v Chris>Yeah.

00:58:37.780 --> 00:58:41.160
<v Wes>Extra notes. We just moved apartments, and the rack and server were carefully

00:58:41.160 --> 00:58:44.660
<v Wes>transported the day before the move by me to keep it safe.

00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:47.280
<v Wes>It was the first piece of furniture in the new apartment.

00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:50.780
<v Wes>We were on the fifth floor without an elevator, so carrying it was tough.

00:58:51.380 --> 00:58:54.200
<v Wes>The new apartment is just one floor up, so much more manageable.

00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:59.240
<v Chris>Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. That's a good one. The name again, that was Dan from?

00:58:59.420 --> 00:59:00.040
<v Wes>Down Under.

00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:05.760
<v Chris>Down from Down Under. You also were my runner-up for the best home lab.

00:59:06.220 --> 00:59:09.200
<v Chris>Dan from Down Under was my runner-up. So I will say that. I agree.

00:59:09.460 --> 00:59:11.260
<v Chris>I will plus one everything you said.

00:59:11.960 --> 00:59:15.240
<v Chris>I'm going to give a pitch for Firefighting Dad.

00:59:15.980 --> 00:59:21.380
<v Chris>Firefighting Dad, I think, nails the gold standard for a beautiful home lab.

00:59:21.380 --> 00:59:23.780
<v Chris>Because it's not overdone on the hardware.

00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:26.060
<v Chris>It's about a clearly defined mission.

00:59:26.260 --> 00:59:30.680
<v Chris>And he's really striving for digital sovereignty for his entire family.

00:59:31.120 --> 00:59:34.440
<v Chris>and providing a service to the community and one of the things he's done that's

00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:38.580
<v Chris>really cool is he has an open bsd system where he auto has he has scripts that

00:59:38.580 --> 00:59:42.860
<v Chris>auto provision different resources for friends and family so he can just hit

00:59:42.860 --> 00:59:45.260
<v Chris>a button and then provision them what he needs when.

00:59:45.260 --> 00:59:48.420
<v Wes>I saw that it's so cool it was all five fire diet was my runner-up.

00:59:48.420 --> 00:59:50.160
<v Chris>Really yeah we were thinking.

00:59:50.160 --> 00:59:51.880
<v Wes>We're on the same well done gents.

00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:55.300
<v Chris>I decided also to apply the scoring system and we didn't do this a lot but,

00:59:56.050 --> 01:00:00.670
<v Chris>If you total it up, if you go by our scoring system, he got a 54 out of 60.

01:00:01.070 --> 01:00:04.910
<v Chris>He scored a 10 on functionality because he solves routing, storage,

01:00:05.110 --> 01:00:09.310
<v Chris>automation, and education to friends, family, like literally his community.

01:00:09.670 --> 01:00:13.210
<v Chris>Great design, clean, SFF cluster, well organized.

01:00:13.570 --> 01:00:17.850
<v Chris>He's got Tasmoda he's using, really nice. But also the ingenuity around his

01:00:17.850 --> 01:00:21.310
<v Chris>OpenBSD auto provisioning scripts to set up friends and family access to his stuff.

01:00:21.530 --> 01:00:25.110
<v Chris>He's got quite a bit of stuff he's providing for multiple different sets of people.

01:00:25.570 --> 01:00:30.230
<v Chris>and he's doing it all at 450 watts. Yes, that's high, but he's doing a massive

01:00:30.230 --> 01:00:32.610
<v Chris>amount of work at 450 watts.

01:00:32.910 --> 01:00:38.430
<v Chris>And he also gives special attention to documentation, very clear explanation

01:00:38.430 --> 01:00:40.350
<v Chris>of why and how for his end users.

01:00:40.830 --> 01:00:45.310
<v Chris>And then he really focused on digital sovereignty and teaching those lessons

01:00:45.310 --> 01:00:48.370
<v Chris>to his kids in a way that's really classy and it's not overbearing.

01:00:48.530 --> 01:00:50.170
<v Chris>And so I gave him a 10 on that too.

01:00:50.350 --> 01:00:54.190
<v Chris>So it gave him a total 54 out of 60. So firefighting dad, I just was really

01:00:54.190 --> 01:00:58.850
<v Chris>impressed because it nailed that sweet spot, but also it was making an improvement

01:00:58.850 --> 01:01:01.170
<v Chris>on the people around his lives. So that's a great one.

01:01:01.650 --> 01:01:03.850
<v Brent>Firefighting Dad also has a little note here. Every Christmas,

01:01:03.850 --> 01:01:07.330
<v Brent>I make a donation to the open source software that I used for the entire year.

01:01:07.330 --> 01:01:11.030
<v Brent>That list gets longer every year, but that's one way I try to pay it forward.

01:01:11.210 --> 01:01:14.790
<v Chris>That's pretty freaking great. Right?

01:01:15.110 --> 01:01:15.530
<v Wes>Yeah.

01:01:15.850 --> 01:01:16.170
<v Chris>Right?

01:01:16.590 --> 01:01:18.630
<v Brent>Yeah. Hit me in the feels.

01:01:19.710 --> 01:01:20.850
<v Wes>These are all so good.

01:01:20.910 --> 01:01:24.930
<v Chris>They were. They were all so good, but we can only give it to one this year.

01:01:26.090 --> 01:01:32.890
<v Chris>I think it's Dan from Down Under and Firefighting Dad.

01:01:34.346 --> 01:01:38.566
<v Chris>Those are our two top right there, if we give it to both. But I think I kind

01:01:38.566 --> 01:01:41.966
<v Chris>of want to give the edge to Firefighting Dad just because of his impact overall.

01:01:42.406 --> 01:01:45.326
<v Chris>Because it's not just for himself, the family, but his community too.

01:01:45.406 --> 01:01:45.986
<v Wes>Yeah, that's noble. I respect that.

01:01:46.086 --> 01:01:47.506
<v Chris>Right? How do you feel about that, Brantley?

01:01:48.206 --> 01:01:49.206
<v Brent>I said, let's do it.

01:01:49.826 --> 01:01:55.706
<v Chris>Oh, wow. I can't believe we got to consensus. I thought we'd be fighting on

01:01:55.706 --> 01:01:57.026
<v Chris>this forever. So there you go.

01:01:57.266 --> 01:02:03.266
<v Chris>Firefighting Dad, you are the Great Holiday Home Lab, best overall home lab. Congratulations.

01:02:17.266 --> 01:02:19.946
<v Chris>but really sincerely thank you everyone who took the

01:02:19.946 --> 01:02:22.966
<v Chris>time to whoa that's way

01:02:22.966 --> 01:02:26.506
<v Chris>too much in the studio way too much we cannot have whoa

01:02:26.506 --> 01:02:29.326
<v Chris>thank you everybody who took the time to fill out the survey and

01:02:29.326 --> 01:02:32.146
<v Chris>you know really that's your time is your most precious asset

01:02:32.146 --> 01:02:35.026
<v Chris>and we really do appreciate you actually getting involved with

01:02:35.026 --> 01:02:37.986
<v Chris>all these crazy shenanigans it was a real holiday treat

01:02:37.986 --> 01:02:40.726
<v Chris>for us and um combined with the notes and

01:02:40.726 --> 01:02:43.766
<v Chris>the easter eggs in there or just reading everybody's setup and being so freaking impressed

01:02:43.766 --> 01:02:46.626
<v Chris>with what you do with what you've got it was

01:02:46.626 --> 01:02:50.726
<v Chris>really great for us so just again for for me and all the boys thank you thank

01:02:50.726 --> 01:02:55.266
<v Chris>you very much and uh we have ways to make this even better potentially next

01:02:55.266 --> 01:02:58.466
<v Chris>year if we do this again that hasn't necessarily been decided but we'd love

01:02:58.466 --> 01:03:02.186
<v Chris>to hear your feedback on that segment and ways you would make it even better

01:03:02.186 --> 01:03:04.086
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01:08:25.312 --> 01:08:29.552
<v Brent>Now, one thing that became very clear to us as we were going through these together

01:08:29.552 --> 01:08:34.532
<v Brent>is that we made some categories and there were many home labs that did not fit

01:08:34.532 --> 01:08:36.272
<v Brent>at all into any of these categories.

01:08:36.272 --> 01:08:40.932
<v Brent>So we decided to pull a few of these out as honorable mentions,

01:08:40.932 --> 01:08:45.232
<v Brent>but they're mostly just home labs that blew us away for reasons we couldn't predict.

01:08:45.432 --> 01:08:48.452
<v Brent>And I have a list. Wes, you have a list. And Chris, you have a list,

01:08:48.472 --> 01:08:51.012
<v Brent>too. I feel like we probably have some that overlap.

01:08:51.452 --> 01:08:51.632
<v Chris>Maybe.

01:08:51.812 --> 01:08:54.732
<v Brent>I know I've got a couple that are just like blew me away.

01:08:54.732 --> 01:08:56.092
<v Chris>All right, start us off with one.

01:08:56.452 --> 01:09:01.392
<v Brent>This was a very impressive setup by Barry KK7JXG.

01:09:01.552 --> 01:09:06.112
<v Wes>Oh, Barry was a runner-up I had earlier, so I'm very glad we're featuring Barry.

01:09:07.192 --> 01:09:09.992
<v Brent>And Barry blew me away. They basically said, I got a home lab,

01:09:10.052 --> 01:09:13.712
<v Brent>everybody's going to have a home lab, but I'm going to show you my ham cluster.

01:09:14.952 --> 01:09:19.672
<v Brent>Oh, right. And this was impressive to me for so many reasons.

01:09:19.672 --> 01:09:24.052
<v Brent>One was that it's being used for a competition that's coming up,

01:09:24.152 --> 01:09:27.912
<v Brent>basically a ham competition, and they go into details about that, which I'll read in a sec.

01:09:28.412 --> 01:09:34.432
<v Brent>But also they did some like really nice electronics work to have the entire

01:09:34.432 --> 01:09:41.512
<v Brent>tiny ham rack be powered by only one power supply. And it was splitting the

01:09:41.512 --> 01:09:42.592
<v Brent>power to a bunch of different things.

01:09:44.326 --> 01:09:48.906
<v Brent>Well, basically a bunch of different little one-liter PCs that are doing all this work.

01:09:49.066 --> 01:09:52.526
<v Brent>This thing blew me away. So ham cluster, yes, we don't have a category for that,

01:09:52.626 --> 01:09:54.206
<v Brent>but it was very impressive.

01:09:54.306 --> 01:09:55.326
<v Wes>I guess we might need one.

01:09:55.506 --> 01:10:00.146
<v Brent>Here's the mission. I mean, Homelab is a bit meh, so I thought I'd submit this.

01:10:00.506 --> 01:10:04.846
<v Brent>Basically, they're Ham Radio Club's field network consisting of a three-node

01:10:04.846 --> 01:10:09.646
<v Brent>Proxmox cluster, which will be deployed semi-off-grid in the field.

01:10:09.646 --> 01:10:15.046
<v Brent>Its core purpose is to host a virtual desktop infrastructure for contact logging.

01:10:15.666 --> 01:10:19.706
<v Brent>Logging is the process of recording details of a ham radio contact.

01:10:20.586 --> 01:10:23.846
<v Brent>So call signs, time, frequency, and signal report.

01:10:24.046 --> 01:10:30.026
<v Brent>This January is Winterfield Day, which is one of the largest ham radio field events of the year.

01:10:30.166 --> 01:10:35.866
<v Brent>And my club will have a multi-operator station, which will be supported by this field network.

01:10:35.866 --> 01:10:40.286
<v Brent>Since our logging software is Windows only, I'm using Apache Guacamole to provide

01:10:40.286 --> 01:10:47.866
<v Brent>browser-based cross-platform access to each of the dedicated ResourceLite Tiny10-based VMs.

01:10:48.086 --> 01:10:51.546
<v Brent>Last year's guys groaned when I told them they needed a Windows laptop,

01:10:51.546 --> 01:10:57.946
<v Brent>so I thought they'd get a kick out of logging on with their iPads this year.

01:10:57.946 --> 01:11:05.266
<v Brent>For data protection, the logging databases reside on a CephFS-backed Samba share.

01:11:05.526 --> 01:11:09.066
<v Brent>This setup isolates database transactions from the Wi-Fi network.

01:11:09.066 --> 01:11:14.346
<v Brent>So if radio interference occurs, which is possible around a lot of high-powered

01:11:14.346 --> 01:11:19.926
<v Brent>ham radios, it might temporarily disrupt an RDP session, but it won't corrupt

01:11:19.926 --> 01:11:22.906
<v Brent>the centralized database. At least, that's the plan.

01:11:23.406 --> 01:11:26.486
<v Chris>That is so great. I love that. That's great.

01:11:28.120 --> 01:11:34.140
<v Chris>Very well done. Great suggestion, Brentley. All right. Do you want to hear my honorable mention?

01:11:34.360 --> 01:11:43.660
<v Chris>I loved Master Reboot because, and I quote, I didn't spend a single dollar on my setup, he writes.

01:11:44.020 --> 01:11:47.940
<v Chris>I worked at two companies with three-year hardware refresh cycles,

01:11:47.940 --> 01:11:53.420
<v Chris>and when it was time to recycle the equipment, I first picked up everything coming out of rotation.

01:11:53.840 --> 01:11:57.500
<v Chris>He says, my home lab, though, is a space heater. It runs at 352 watts idle.

01:11:58.200 --> 01:12:01.900
<v Chris>But about six months ago, he swapped video cards. I don't think he loves it.

01:12:02.020 --> 01:12:06.780
<v Chris>But I just, I love the story he gave us about trying to set things up.

01:12:06.980 --> 01:12:11.080
<v Chris>Wasn't the best situation. Kind of dark. He had to forcefully plug in a port.

01:12:11.320 --> 01:12:14.320
<v Chris>And he was kind of given a shove. He's like, why isn't this going in right?

01:12:14.520 --> 01:12:20.380
<v Chris>And turns out he was trying to stick a USB stick into a display port and wrecked his display port.

01:12:20.500 --> 01:12:21.680
<v Wes>And did stick it in that point.

01:12:21.700 --> 01:12:22.180
<v Chris>Yeah, he got it.

01:12:24.940 --> 01:12:28.100
<v Chris>also he just had this great story uh where

01:12:28.100 --> 01:12:31.000
<v Chris>he was talking about trying to uh flash a hard

01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:34.100
<v Chris>drive and i think

01:12:34.100 --> 01:12:38.600
<v Chris>i can find it here he says it's so good i tried to flash a usb stick and i put

01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:42.560
<v Chris>it in my fedora machine and it said nope not our problem so finally i grabbed

01:12:42.560 --> 01:12:47.720
<v Chris>my macbook in desperation i found the usb creator tool for mac i hit one button

01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:51.780
<v Chris>and bam it worked i swear that Mac looked at me and said, amateurs.

01:12:52.060 --> 01:12:57.000
<v Chris>He says, but what would have taken me one hour ended up taking seven hours.

01:12:57.260 --> 01:13:00.320
<v Chris>That's not tech support. That's a hostage situation.

01:13:03.460 --> 01:13:07.800
<v Chris>He says, before I touch anything, too, I send out a telegram message to the wife.

01:13:07.940 --> 01:13:12.340
<v Chris>They say, I pretend like it's Patch Tuesday at Amazon with a big notice.

01:13:12.780 --> 01:13:16.940
<v Chris>Expected downtime imminent. Prepare snacks, alert the teenagers,

01:13:17.100 --> 01:13:20.960
<v Chris>we may lose Wi-Fi for up to 15 minutes. Godspeed.

01:13:21.698 --> 01:13:25.958
<v Chris>That's the message he sends out to the wife via telegram. He included a couple

01:13:25.958 --> 01:13:28.758
<v Chris>of diagrams that he created with draw.io, too.

01:13:28.878 --> 01:13:29.498
<v Brent>They were nice.

01:13:29.638 --> 01:13:33.618
<v Chris>Yeah. So I had to give the honorable mention to Master Reboot.

01:13:34.098 --> 01:13:36.598
<v Chris>Love that story. And not spending a single dollar on the setup.

01:13:36.938 --> 01:13:37.018
<v Wes>Amazing.

01:13:37.578 --> 01:13:39.538
<v Chris>Wes Pano, do you have an honorable mention?

01:13:39.698 --> 01:13:43.018
<v Wes>I do. Let's go with the dude abides.

01:13:43.178 --> 01:13:44.118
<v Chris>Oh, very good.

01:13:44.278 --> 01:13:44.718
<v Brent>Ooh.

01:13:45.958 --> 01:13:50.518
<v Wes>Yeah. I like the dude abides because there's just a suite rack, a huge array of apps,

01:13:50.658 --> 01:13:53.398
<v Wes>lightning nodes in there we can kind of get into some of the

01:13:53.398 --> 01:13:55.958
<v Wes>details there's uh let's see it's a

01:13:55.958 --> 01:13:58.918
<v Wes>15 new star tech rack cabinet enclosed and

01:13:58.918 --> 01:14:01.578
<v Wes>locked a nice ups hp gen 8

01:14:01.578 --> 01:14:04.338
<v Wes>micro server with some xeons 16 gigs of ecc

01:14:04.338 --> 01:14:11.098
<v Wes>4 by 16 terabyte zfs mirror two and a half gig neck jet kvm involved there's

01:14:11.098 --> 01:14:16.858
<v Wes>also lenovo m720q oh that's got a 10 gig sfp plus a whole bunch of nice looking

01:14:16.858 --> 01:14:21.818
<v Wes>unify gear nice a home assistant blue with a zigbee antenna there's some cameras oh.

01:14:21.818 --> 01:14:22.758
<v Chris>Yeah did he include a picture.

01:14:22.758 --> 01:14:25.158
<v Wes>Uh yes yeah i saw a gallery actually yep.

01:14:25.158 --> 01:14:25.858
<v Chris>I saw that.

01:14:25.858 --> 01:14:29.358
<v Wes>With an adorable photo of his daughter hanging out next to the wreck.

01:14:29.358 --> 01:14:31.718
<v Chris>Yeah i saw that too that did speak to me.

01:14:31.718 --> 01:14:36.458
<v Wes>Uh-huh yeah i was really like that also isp modem but i guess there's some double

01:14:36.458 --> 01:14:42.418
<v Wes>nat issues because he's getting eight gigs symmetric from his isp.

01:14:43.055 --> 01:14:44.175
<v Chris>Oh, my goodness.

01:14:44.295 --> 01:14:46.575
<v Wes>But with the double NAT, it's kind of in the four gigs.

01:14:46.815 --> 01:14:46.935
<v Chris>Oh, yeah.

01:14:47.175 --> 01:14:48.775
<v Wes>So, you know, really limping along.

01:14:49.055 --> 01:14:52.875
<v Chris>That's probably fixable, though. You know, maybe not totally solvable,

01:14:53.015 --> 01:14:54.535
<v Chris>but probably pretty solvable.

01:14:54.915 --> 01:14:58.055
<v Wes>The Home Assistant sounds like it's up your alley. 159 devices,

01:14:58.475 --> 01:15:03.415
<v Wes>12 add-ons, zero-tier influx, Grafana, Samba, code server, NextCloud backup,

01:15:04.495 --> 01:15:08.495
<v Wes>Tailscale, ESP Homes in there, Mosquito, Music Assistant, Uptime Kuma.

01:15:08.755 --> 01:15:09.215
<v Chris>Oh, good.

01:15:09.215 --> 01:15:13.695
<v Wes>There's a TrueNAS involved on that microserver for daily photo backup to Backblaze.

01:15:13.835 --> 01:15:18.735
<v Wes>Of course, Proxmox is going on that Lenovo box. A bunch of LXCs on top of that,

01:15:18.955 --> 01:15:19.895
<v Wes>including a backup server.

01:15:20.075 --> 01:15:24.695
<v Wes>And there's like the R stack there, plus a Bitcoin node with Umbral is going on.

01:15:25.035 --> 01:15:25.275
<v Chris>Nice.

01:15:25.475 --> 01:15:29.035
<v Wes>Yeah, I just thought kind of the whole thing looked like a classic Homelab Plus.

01:15:29.255 --> 01:15:29.755
<v Chris>Well done, dude.

01:15:29.755 --> 01:15:33.135
<v Wes>You'll like the clever part. The latest thing I'm proud of is the addition of

01:15:33.135 --> 01:15:37.295
<v Wes>some Zigbee relays to the radiators we have around the house so that I can control

01:15:37.295 --> 01:15:38.575
<v Wes>them via Home Assistant. it.

01:15:38.695 --> 01:15:42.535
<v Wes>We don't have central heating and being able to do this was really cool.

01:15:42.835 --> 01:15:45.915
<v Wes>And all of that at an idle of 183 watts.

01:15:46.095 --> 01:15:46.735
<v Chris>Oh, not bad.

01:15:47.015 --> 01:15:47.475
<v Wes>Not too bad.

01:15:47.895 --> 01:15:52.975
<v Chris>I want to give just a quick shout out to PJ. Producer Jeff sent in his setup

01:15:52.975 --> 01:15:55.515
<v Chris>and we've seen this setup and it's impressive.

01:15:55.515 --> 01:16:00.535
<v Chris>And I bet a lot of you out there do this is he has a home theater PC NAS custom

01:16:00.535 --> 01:16:04.675
<v Chris>desktop hooked up to his TV that It also runs image and next cloud.

01:16:04.935 --> 01:16:10.075
<v Chris>So it's his media center box. And also it does a lot of his hosting there. It's pretty great.

01:16:10.715 --> 01:16:14.235
<v Chris>So there's so many good submissions that what we're going to do is some of them

01:16:14.235 --> 01:16:16.835
<v Chris>that didn't make it into today's show, just because we're already running long

01:16:16.835 --> 01:16:20.335
<v Chris>is we'll probably read some of them in a future bootleg feed too,

01:16:20.495 --> 01:16:26.295
<v Chris>because there's too many not to get into, but we have one more treat for everybody.

01:16:26.295 --> 01:16:29.615
<v Chris>And this one is something that's pretty fantastic friends.

01:16:29.875 --> 01:16:31.535
<v Chris>It's time for the boosties.

01:16:40.075 --> 01:16:43.315
<v Chris>And this is just a moment where we can just acknowledge and thank people who

01:16:43.315 --> 01:16:49.135
<v Chris>have supported the show directly with a boost throughout the individual productions.

01:16:49.435 --> 01:16:53.095
<v Chris>And, of course, we have to first start by thanking everybody who's a member.

01:16:53.295 --> 01:16:57.095
<v Chris>That is our ongoing support, and we really appreciate that. This is to acknowledge

01:16:57.095 --> 01:17:00.535
<v Chris>those who also contribute above and beyond each individual production.

01:17:01.915 --> 01:17:05.355
<v Chris>And, as always, I'll butcher some of these pronunciations.

01:17:06.015 --> 01:17:06.695
<v Brent>Please do.

01:17:06.695 --> 01:17:10.935
<v Wes>But because of how the way this works, you've probably already heard him do it before.

01:17:11.875 --> 01:17:12.795
<v Chris>It'll be...

01:17:12.795 --> 01:17:14.395
<v Wes>Will it be the same? We don't know, but...

01:17:14.395 --> 01:17:20.415
<v Chris>Yeah. And so the folks that supported the show with the most sats for 2025,

01:17:21.955 --> 01:17:26.155
<v Chris>Devator comes in at an even 600,000 sats.

01:17:26.155 --> 01:17:26.795
<v Wes>So neat.

01:17:28.715 --> 01:17:31.475
<v Chris>I wonder if they... Did they plan that? That's so perfect.

01:17:31.475 --> 01:17:32.395
<v Wes>That would be impressive.

01:17:33.375 --> 01:17:40.515
<v Chris>Adversary 17, not surprised at all to see them on the list. They come in with 622,839 stats.

01:17:41.735 --> 01:17:44.735
<v Chris>Thank you very much. Now, I know, you know, I know a lot of that.

01:17:44.875 --> 01:17:47.575
<v Chris>I think I recall a lot of that came in during our Texas road trip.

01:17:47.715 --> 01:17:48.495
<v Wes>Yes, definitely.

01:17:49.455 --> 01:17:53.355
<v Brent>Well, huge shout out to adversaries for having me there, too. That's another V4V.

01:17:53.995 --> 01:17:58.515
<v Brent>It's not counted in these stats, but it sure is memorable. So thank you for having me.

01:17:58.815 --> 01:18:01.055
<v Wes>Yeah. Weren't you supposed to boost in, Brandon? Sort of part of that?

01:18:01.475 --> 01:18:02.955
<v Brent>Oh, yeah. Right. I forgot.

01:18:03.495 --> 01:18:07.175
<v Wes>Well, coming in at number three, we have our buddy, Our Podcast,

01:18:07.555 --> 01:18:11.875
<v Wes>Always Generous, with 902,345 sats.

01:18:12.095 --> 01:18:13.415
<v Chris>Fantastic. Thank you, Our Podcast.

01:18:17.326 --> 01:18:26.346
<v Brent>Second from the top here, we've got Blackhost, 957,624 Satoshis.

01:18:26.566 --> 01:18:26.886
<v Chris>Whoa.

01:18:27.486 --> 01:18:29.486
<v Wes>Just under a million. That's wild.

01:18:29.886 --> 01:18:34.306
<v Chris>Heavy lift. And that is something that goes back to the entire community, right?

01:18:34.526 --> 01:18:39.386
<v Chris>It's really, thank you so much, Blackhost. And our number one booster for 2025

01:18:39.386 --> 01:18:48.066
<v Chris>is at 1,066,632 sats, the dude abides.

01:18:49.066 --> 01:18:49.706
<v Wes>Wow.

01:18:55.686 --> 01:19:01.806
<v Chris>Yes, thank you very much. We have an extra batch of fireworks just for you, the dude.

01:19:20.115 --> 01:19:24.855
<v Chris>We really do appreciate that. That is a significant contribution to this show's run in 2025.

01:19:25.575 --> 01:19:29.595
<v Chris>These are some of the folks, along with our members, that made 2025 possible

01:19:29.595 --> 01:19:34.555
<v Chris>and the reason why we had an episode every single week for you. Thank you very much.

01:19:35.095 --> 01:19:40.155
<v Brent>We have also a special little gift for the DudaBides.

01:19:40.315 --> 01:19:46.215
<v Brent>Hybrid Sarcasm, if you remember from last year, suggested that the one who won

01:19:46.215 --> 01:19:51.355
<v Brent>the Boosties would get a free Jupiter Broadcasting Party membership,

01:19:51.355 --> 01:19:56.095
<v Brent>either to use for yourself or to give away maybe to another community member

01:19:56.095 --> 01:19:59.735
<v Brent>or someone you know who would love the show. That is so great.

01:20:00.055 --> 01:20:00.675
<v Wes>Congrats.

01:20:00.675 --> 01:20:04.935
<v Brent>That's amazing. That is community to community gifts. And, Hybrid,

01:20:05.095 --> 01:20:06.275
<v Brent>thank you for doing that.

01:20:06.495 --> 01:20:08.215
<v Chris>Yes, plus one to that. Thank you, Hybrid.

01:20:08.215 --> 01:20:10.375
<v Wes>Yeah, we did not prompt that. Hybrid just stepped up.

01:20:11.455 --> 01:20:15.255
<v Chris>All right. Let's give thanks to the folks who sent us the most boosts in total.

01:20:15.975 --> 01:20:17.335
<v Chris>Are you ready for this category, gentlemen?

01:20:17.475 --> 01:20:21.715
<v Wes>Yeah, coming up, number five is Tomato with 19 boosts.

01:20:21.715 --> 01:20:25.195
<v Chris>All right. Thank you, Tomato, 19 boosts. Tomato, tomato.

01:20:26.635 --> 01:20:31.375
<v Chris>Not surprisingly, the DudaBides comes in next on the list at 20 boosts.

01:20:33.015 --> 01:20:41.475
<v Wes>Number three is none other than turd ferguson with a handsome 23 boost thank.

01:20:41.475 --> 01:20:42.735
<v Chris>You turd appreciate that.

01:20:42.735 --> 01:20:46.955
<v Brent>Number two we've got adversaries 17.

01:20:46.955 --> 01:20:49.315
<v Wes>25 total.

01:20:49.315 --> 01:20:51.375
<v Chris>Boosts very nicely done,

01:20:56.560 --> 01:21:01.260
<v Chris>And our number one sender for the most boosts, ladies and gentlemen,

01:21:01.580 --> 01:21:06.220
<v Chris>goes to the one, the only, Gene Bean.

01:21:11.140 --> 01:21:12.800
<v Chris>With 54 boosts.

01:21:13.120 --> 01:21:13.160
<v Wes>Wow.

01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:18.600
<v Brent>Do you notice how that's more than twice as much as the number two person?

01:21:18.840 --> 01:21:22.100
<v Chris>You know what? I love the engagement. I love it. Thank you, Gene Bean.

01:21:22.200 --> 01:21:23.540
<v Wes>Gene keeps in touch, and it's great.

01:21:23.540 --> 01:21:26.300
<v Chris>And when you see his boost come in, you're always like, oh, good,

01:21:26.360 --> 01:21:27.480
<v Chris>it's a Gene boost, right?

01:21:27.620 --> 01:21:30.340
<v Brent>I always see his smiling face whenever we get that pew from Gene.

01:21:30.620 --> 01:21:35.540
<v Chris>I agree. I agree. All right. Our next category is those of you who set those

01:21:35.540 --> 01:21:39.480
<v Chris>sats on streaming, and you just send the sats as you listen, minute by minute.

01:21:39.880 --> 01:21:43.460
<v Chris>And we really do appreciate that. Brentley, will you kick off the number one,

01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:46.320
<v Chris>or it's not number one, but the first entry.

01:21:46.780 --> 01:21:50.460
<v Chris>Number five. I guess it'd be the number five entry, yes. Will you kick off number five, Brentley?

01:21:50.460 --> 01:21:57.480
<v Brent>The number five most stream sats to the network came from undead fable with

01:21:57.480 --> 01:22:02.240
<v Brent>90 460 sats streamed in total all right.

01:22:04.024 --> 01:22:08.784
<v Chris>Thank you, Undead. Thank you very much. Our good buddy, Odyssey Wester,

01:22:08.844 --> 01:22:10.244
<v Chris>has been around for a long time.

01:22:10.604 --> 01:22:14.224
<v Chris>He sent in, just via streaming while he listened to the show,

01:22:14.484 --> 01:22:19.304
<v Chris>supporting minute by minute, 93,817 sats.

01:22:20.044 --> 01:22:20.864
<v Brent>Nice. Impressive.

01:22:21.424 --> 01:22:23.344
<v Chris>Thank you, Odyssey. Appreciate that.

01:22:23.884 --> 01:22:28.564
<v Wes>And, well, you already know that Gene Bean boosts a lot, but it turns out Gene

01:22:28.564 --> 01:22:33.804
<v Wes>Bean streams a lot in at number three with 116,934 stream sats.

01:22:33.804 --> 01:22:34.624
<v Chris>Thank you, Gene.

01:22:35.784 --> 01:22:37.184
<v Wes>That's on top of the boosts.

01:22:37.224 --> 01:22:41.404
<v Chris>Yes, that's on top of the boost, Gene. Thank you very much. Appreciate that.

01:22:41.844 --> 01:22:49.704
<v Brent>We've got our number two here, Biggles. Biggles is number two with 120,950 stream sets.

01:22:51.324 --> 01:22:52.544
<v Chris>Very, very impressive.

01:22:52.844 --> 01:22:55.224
<v Wes>And this is kind of why I like just taking a peek in here sometimes,

01:22:55.224 --> 01:22:58.624
<v Wes>because, you know, we don't see necessarily a lot of boosts from Biggles, but.

01:22:58.724 --> 01:22:59.124
<v Chris>Yeah.

01:22:59.424 --> 01:23:00.924
<v Wes>Out there streaming. That's great.

01:23:01.344 --> 01:23:04.284
<v Chris>That's a great observation, Wes. Thank you, Biggles.

01:23:04.444 --> 01:23:13.984
<v Chris>And our number one most stream sats listener goes to Squared Triangle, 276,500 sats.

01:23:14.684 --> 01:23:17.324
<v Chris>That's the, that's, thank you very much.

01:23:21.319 --> 01:23:25.459
<v Chris>Thank you, everyone. If you have a membership at linuxunplugged.com slash membership

01:23:25.459 --> 01:23:30.959
<v Chris>or the Jupyter Party, or you stream or send those sats, thank you for making 2025 possible.

01:23:31.479 --> 01:23:34.459
<v Chris>We really appreciate you. Honestly, I wasn't ever sure if it happened. We were sure.

01:23:34.979 --> 01:23:38.599
<v Chris>In 2024 at this time, we're like, will we make it? Will we make it?

01:23:38.699 --> 01:23:41.679
<v Chris>And the audience made sure we made it. Thank you, everyone out there.

01:23:42.199 --> 01:23:46.099
<v Chris>Is there any other categories that we need? Because I see, so we have the stream

01:23:46.099 --> 01:23:48.839
<v Chris>sats and then we have the most streams. That's a different category.

01:23:49.079 --> 01:23:50.339
<v Wes>Yeah, I don't know if it's super meaningful.

01:23:50.339 --> 01:23:51.379
<v Chris>Well, we can give it a quick mention.

01:23:51.499 --> 01:23:54.419
<v Wes>Yeah, definitely. Just people out there who are doing a lot of streaming,

01:23:54.639 --> 01:23:58.659
<v Wes>including Forward Humor, number five, 2.5K streams.

01:23:58.899 --> 01:23:59.359
<v Chris>Very nice.

01:23:59.559 --> 01:24:01.539
<v Wes>Moon and Night, also 2.5K streams.

01:24:01.699 --> 01:24:02.179
<v Chris>Hey, Moon and Night.

01:24:02.319 --> 01:24:04.499
<v Wes>Odyssey Westra, 2.6K.

01:24:04.679 --> 01:24:05.159
<v Chris>There he is again.

01:24:06.059 --> 01:24:07.719
<v Wes>Undead Fable, 2.9K.

01:24:07.719 --> 01:24:08.699
<v Chris>Good to see you again.

01:24:09.019 --> 01:24:12.899
<v Wes>And Dano Selti at 3,120 streams.

01:24:13.139 --> 01:24:15.619
<v Chris>Thank you, Dano. Appreciate you very much.

01:24:16.019 --> 01:24:19.959
<v Wes>Yeah, let's see. Our total number of boosters was something like 238.

01:24:19.959 --> 01:24:20.739
<v Chris>Individuals?

01:24:20.879 --> 01:24:23.879
<v Wes>Yeah. Total number of boosts was 746.

01:24:24.399 --> 01:24:24.679
<v Chris>Wow.

01:24:24.839 --> 01:24:30.399
<v Wes>We had a total number of streamers was 189 and we had 50K streams.

01:24:30.739 --> 01:24:31.699
<v Chris>Thank you, everyone.

01:24:32.379 --> 01:24:32.819
<v Brent>Unbelievable.

01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:36.879
<v Chris>Thank you for, you know, every time we go through this, it really feels like

01:24:36.879 --> 01:24:41.479
<v Chris>we are proving out a model here where a niche that couldn't have been successful

01:24:41.479 --> 01:24:47.299
<v Chris>in magazine and in other mediums because what we talk about and the demographic that we appeal to,

01:24:47.439 --> 01:24:50.739
<v Chris>who prefers free stuff in a lot of cases, It's like we're making it actually

01:24:50.739 --> 01:24:54.939
<v Chris>possible where some of our greatest community resources for media,

01:24:55.079 --> 01:24:55.979
<v Chris>like the Linux magazines,

01:24:56.279 --> 01:24:59.839
<v Chris>weren't able to make a long run of it. I mean, we're doing it.

01:24:59.919 --> 01:25:00.939
<v Chris>We're proving it right here.

01:25:01.279 --> 01:25:04.599
<v Chris>And so much gratitude goes to our members and everybody who supports us with the boost.

01:25:04.919 --> 01:25:08.179
<v Chris>Thank you. Thank you very much. And a round of applause also to anybody who's

01:25:08.179 --> 01:25:11.679
<v Chris>contributed to the show in the community, who has told the show to something

01:25:11.679 --> 01:25:14.959
<v Chris>like a friend because word of mouth is the number one way to spread a podcast

01:25:14.959 --> 01:25:17.879
<v Chris>or spent a little time with your time, talent or treasure, any of those.

01:25:17.999 --> 01:25:21.959
<v Chris>Thank you so much for making 2025 possible. We will have one more episode.

01:25:23.526 --> 01:25:30.966
<v Chris>One more episode. We will be back after the holidays on December 28th, 10 a.m. Pacific, 1 p.m.

01:25:31.286 --> 01:25:33.626
<v Chris>Eastern, for our predictions.

01:25:33.886 --> 01:25:34.106
<v Wes>Uh-oh.

01:25:34.326 --> 01:25:35.466
<v Chris>You know what also that means?

01:25:36.226 --> 01:25:36.626
<v Wes>Review.

01:25:36.926 --> 01:25:37.226
<v Chris>Yeah.

01:25:37.946 --> 01:25:39.626
<v Wes>So we have some homework to do.

01:25:39.746 --> 01:25:42.446
<v Chris>We do. You can join us December 28th.

01:25:42.506 --> 01:25:43.866
<v Wes>Boost in those predictions, too, please.

01:25:43.946 --> 01:25:46.726
<v Chris>Get your predictions in. You still have time. And we'll be reviewing the boost

01:25:46.726 --> 01:25:49.666
<v Chris>that you sent in the last week into the show. Thank you very much.

01:25:49.826 --> 01:25:51.446
<v Chris>And we'll see you next week.

